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Bill ProctorMotion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 18, 2011 at 2:48:20 am

When I try to use the Motion Tracker plug in in Match Move, I get a error message. Outside of trim range for Tracker(s)
The Boris stand alone Motion Key works fine.


Below is a screen capture of what the message looks like.
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John RofranoRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 20, 2011 at 2:41:35 pm

[Bill Proctor] "I get a error message. Outside of trim range for Tracker(s)"
If the frame you are trying to track beyond the 30,000th frame? (16.6 minutes at 30fps) That seems to be the limit for tracking.

~jr

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Bill ProctorRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 21, 2011 at 9:46:39 pm

John....thanks for the quick reply...One question, if the clip is longer then 30,000 frames, that means I'll need to split the clip in half.....right?

Bill


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John RofranoRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 22, 2011 at 12:35:22 am

[Bill Proctor] "if the clip is longer then 30,000 frames, that means I'll need to split the clip in half.....right?"
Not only that but you'll need to place it at the beginning of another track since Match Move is track based. What I would do is create a new project for the part of the clip that is beyond 30,000 frames and use Match Move on that. Then drop that project into the original project at the 30,000 frame position. This is like precomposing in After Effects if you are familiar with that software.

~jr

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Bill ProctorRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 22, 2011 at 8:04:40 pm

John....Match Move worked fine after opening the clip as a new project as you suggested.

One more question, in Vegas Pro 10, do I render this clip and then insert it into the time line of my original project? ......

Man I wish you guys had a manual for using Boris Continuum in Vegas.....I'd be first on your list.

Thanks again, Bill


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John RofranoRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Aug 22, 2011 at 9:10:46 pm

[Bill Proctor] "One more question, in Vegas Pro 10, do I render this clip and then insert it into the time line of my original project? ......"
No, just drop the .veg file into your original project as you would ay other piece of media. Vegas will create an event for it. You can even right-click on the event and open it in another instance of Vegas Pro to work on it some more and when you save it, Vegas will update the event to reflect any changes.
[Bill Proctor] "Man I wish you guys had a manual for using Boris Continuum in Vegas.....I'd be first on your list."
Have you watched the Boris TV tutorials for Vegas Pro? Is there something specific you'd like to see explained? We're always looking for good topics that customer are interested in learning about.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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James HoughtalingRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Jan 20, 2012 at 5:10:38 am

John, I'm seeing the same message trying to track a lens flare. My start frame is only 2,981 so I'm no where near the 30,000 mark. Any clue?


EDIT: Figured it out. The START frame has to be less than 300, the END frame is 30,000. So basically what I'm starting to figure out is the tracking tools in BCC are not something you just plop in on your timeline like you would any other effect. You really have to create the effect at the beginning of your timeline and either render them out or save them as a separate veg and position the event where you need it. None of the tutorials speak to these fundamental aspects of the tracker and since the tutorials only show single events that so happen to be at the start of the timeline, it doesn't come up in the conversation. Like the fact that you can't relocate a tracked event without messing up the track because the track data is tied to the timeline, not the event.

Perhaps this is a worthy topic for a tutorial? And some advanced tracking FX where you need to overlay an irregular shaped layer using irregular shaped corner pins. Example being my attempt to place a modified stop sign (transparent PNG) over the original video. I used the sign bolts as four corners. But the bolts were not at the four corners (cause stop signs don't have corners) and they were also not perfectly square. So the aspect of the PNG got all messed up and I had to do a lot of individual offsetting to make it match up.

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread... :)


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John RofranoRe: Motion tracker will not work in Match Move(Vegas Pro 10)
by on Jan 20, 2012 at 11:37:28 am

[James Houghtaling] "Figured it out. The START frame has to be less than 300"
I didn't realize that start had a limitation. Thanks for bringing this out. I have always approached tracking as a separate project like a Comp in AE so I've never run into this.
[James Houghtaling] "Perhaps this is a worthy topic for a tutorial? And some advanced tracking FX where you need to overlay an irregular shaped layer using irregular shaped corner pins. Example being my attempt to place a modified stop sign (transparent PNG) over the original video. I used the sign bolts as four corners. But the bolts were not at the four corners (cause stop signs don't have corners) and they were also not perfectly square."
That's similar to what I do in this tutorial on Corner Pinning (use the sign bolts) except my sign is a rectangle but it should work for any shape:







~jr

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