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Steve Routhier
Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 7:23:03 am

Hello everyone, it's nice to be part in this forum with so many fellow videomakers !

I'm working since 6 months on a long feature-lenght documentary. It's about a trip in Philippines with 7 peoples. Also, it will be shown in theatres next fall. I'm alone in this project and I did a lot of work on my own learning my NLE: Sony Vegas Pro 10 and Boris Red, which I bought for almost a thousand box.

Here is my problem:

I did a animation in Boris RED involving a map of the Philippines created in Illustrator. It's suppose to help the viewer to know where am I in the country at any part of the film. This pictures that I animate in RED has an Alpha Channel.

I do not know which rendering settings is the best as I'm willing to export the animation in RED and import after in Sony Vegas Pro. I need to keep the alpha channel in all the process.

I bought the Cineform Neoscene and the last codec from Cineform. But does it keep the alpha channel ? I don't know....

I wish we could find together the right issue to fix my work.

I'm so involved personaly in this project that I wish strongly that someone could put me in the right way.

Thank you

Steve


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John Rofrano
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 1:55:46 pm

There is no reason to render at all. Use Boris RED 5 as a plug-in to Sony Vegas Pro 10 and it will work fine in your project. Just drop RED onto an empty event in Vegas and open the RED GUI and then open the RED project you created with the map. It should display properly on the Vegas timeline with an alpha channel.

If you every need to render with an alpha channel, I would use the QuickTime Animation codec. It was designed for adding animations to video.

~jr

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Steve Routhier
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 2:54:21 pm

Hello John,

You're absolutely right about the newer version of RED 5, it's now leaving as a 3rd party effect in sony vegas Pro.

But for the moment, I'm still with Boris Red 4.2.

I did an animation with the standalone version, so I need to render it for the moment. I will try with the Quicktime animation.

John, Is there a kind of update for this CODEC (QT Animation )or the version that is available with RED will do job perfectly ?

Thanks

Steve


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John Rofrano
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 3:48:47 pm

[Steve Routhier] "But for the moment, I'm still with Boris Red 4.2."
That should work fine as a plug-in to Vegas Pro 32-bit. I used it all the time in Vegas Pro 9.
[Steve Routhier] "John, Is there a kind of update for this CODEC (QT Animation )or the version that is available with RED will do job perfectly ?"
Just make sure that you have the latest version of Apple QuickTime and you'll have the latest in all your applications. They all use QuickTime to do the actual rendering.

~jr

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Steve Routhier
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 4:03:10 pm

Hi John,

Do you mean, Boris Continuum Complete, when you say " as a plug-ins" for sony vegas pro 9 ?

Because as far as I'm concerned, before the Red version 5, it's never been a plug-ins for sony vegas pro.

Anyway, I will check if my quicktime apps are up to date.

Thank you very much John

By the way, I would like to congratulate you for all the tutorials that you have been made for Boris TV. I have seen each of them, few more than twice. Good work. Good voice, You're a patient guy. Very informative and relevant.

I'm waiting for the next ones.


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John Rofrano
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 4:40:28 pm

[Steve Routhier] "Because as far as I'm concerned, before the Red version 5, it's never been a plug-ins for sony vegas pro."
Hmmm... I'm not sure what you are referring to but RED has always been a plug-in to Vegas. I've been using Boris RED 4 as a plug-in to Vegas since Sony Vegas 6 (check the Boris RED 4.3 installer if you don't believe me. Sony Vegas 6, 7, & 8 are all listed). The only thing that has changed in Vegas Pro 10 is that you can now preview live video in the Boris RED GUI whereas before you only got a representative frame, but other than that I've been making 3D text and animated handwriting text, etc. with RED 4 in Vegas for years and years.

What has not been supported is 64-bit. Only Vegas Pro 8.0 32-bit was supported. 64-bit support was added with Boris RED 5 so if you were using RED 4 with Vegas Pro 8.0 or 9.0 64-bit then you are correct, it did not show up as a plug-in.
[Steve Routhier] "By the way, I would like to congratulate you for all the tutorials that you have been made for Boris TV. I have seen each of them, few more than twice. Good work. Good voice, You're a patient guy. Very informative and relevant."
Thanks for the kind words. A lot of preparation goes into those and I'm glad that it shows. I enjoy doing them and look forward to doing more in the near future.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Steve Routhier
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 24, 2011 at 9:38:20 pm

Hello John,

I am working on Sony Vegas Pro 10 64 bits. That's why I could not use RED 4.3 as a plug-ins.

Maybe I should upgrade Red to version 5 ?

thanks


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John Rofrano
Re: Boris Red and rendering with an alpha channel
on Jul 25, 2011 at 2:59:57 am

[Steve Routhier] "Maybe I should upgrade Red to version 5 ? "
IMHO, it is well worth it for the upgrade price. You might want to download the trial and see if you get spoiled. ;-)

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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