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John YoungCD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 2:48:59 pm

I have a client that wants a their video files on a CD with a menu and clickable buttons and they were adamant that they wanted a CD and not a DVD. In my mind this is a CD-ROM and I'm not sure how much those are used in today's technology. I have been doing research on the best way to do this, but haven't found much information that is recent.
What have you all done with interactive CD's?

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Chris TompkinsRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 3:12:54 pm

This was very popular in the 90's ~ an authored CDROM
MacroMedia had the market on this.
I found the programming to much for me and hired out this service.
Probably could be done with Adobe Flash now.
You can also create this with HTML. Basically a website on a disc.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Mads Nybo JørgensenRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 3:28:30 pm

Hey John,

It sounds crazy, but there are still places on this planet where they cannot view a DVD or use a USB stick - hence why we just before Christmas delivered 50 CD-Roms for a charity, all destined to be distributed in Africa.

Make sure that any programming that you do can be read on old operating systems.

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Noah KadnerRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 4:12:34 pm

Yeah I'd just do this in HTML. It seems really pointless in 2011 to spend the time/money to author an 'interactive CD-ROM' when you can achieve precisely the same effect using web authoring and just place the results onto a shiny disc.

Noah

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Cory PetkovsekRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 8:42:45 pm

You can create a VCD, that will be playable on computers or DVD players.
http://www.vcdeasy.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_CD

Cory

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John YoungRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 10:02:22 pm

Thanks everyone.
In order for the disc to start up automatically on insert, you would need an AUTORUN program, right? What is the best was to make sure that your CD is cross-platform?

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Chris TompkinsRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 17, 2011 at 10:04:48 pm

You can google that one easy enough. On the WIN side it's real easy. For Macs, not as easy - As far as I know anyway.

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Mark SuszkoRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 18, 2011 at 5:00:59 pm

The Big Gun for developing one of these is Macromedia Director. The program has a legendary level of complexity because of all the stuff it can do, and it is hard to find people who are really good at it these days, which means when you find them, they are expensive.

There are some less fully-featured tools for building these kinds of CD-ROMS, that have taken the functionality of Director and boiled it down to some canned pre-programmed templates. Last time I saw one of these was done for one of our clients by an outside consultant a couple years back. I can ask for the name of the program if you're really interested. In the case of that client, their stuff wasn't anything that couldn't have been done about as well by making an interactive DVD or just a very complicated Powerpoint presentation with a lot of branching. I think those two options are why the Multimedia Director type projects are not more widespread these days. And as has been said, you can also do this a a hyperdocument using html and an offline browser.


Trying to figure out why the client needs it like this, they might have banned DVD drives as a policy to prevent abuse like watching movies at work. They just may have no budget for upgrades for the computers, or a very slow and retro IT network management, or as in my client's case, they know their market, and know that the things have to be playable on a lot of legacy equipment that doesn't have anything like a DVD drive. You can find pockets of oddball users like this in many fields of work, and that's one reason there are still mutimedia developers out there.


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Stephen SmithRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 19, 2011 at 12:45:14 am

[Chris] Probably could be done with Adobe Flash now.

Yes it can be done on flash. It even has / had a feature to export out your project to a CD-ROM. I made one back in collage with Flash MX and I've never touched flash since. We did all of our CD authoring in Macramedia director.


As for the Auto run on a windows. It is a simple line of code that you can copy into a text document. As recommended Google it. There was a way to do it on a mac but I recall it was really hard. I haven't done one of these in 10 years. Best of luck.

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Martin CurtisRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 19, 2011 at 10:54:42 am

[Stephen Smith] " I made one back in collage with Flash MX and I've never touched flash since."
Common story that one...
[Stephen Smith] "o run on a windows. It is a simple line of code that you can copy into a text document."
Kind of. You can autorun an exe file using a single line dropped into a .ini file at the root, which is fine for running a Flash executable, but not much good for trying to launch, say, an HTML-based presentation. There are programs you can buy that will generate the necessary file, codes and executables to do this, but they cost something. Not much, IIRC, but something.

Can't do autorun on a Mac. Quicktime had an autorun feature yeeeeaaarrrrs ago, but the autorun feature actually enabled one of the few Mac viruses to propagate (link) so the feature was quietly dropped.

My advice to the OP would be to
  • find out what systems you are dealing with. no point in packaging something that won't run
  • do it in Flash if they know how (don't forget to export the Windows exe and the Mac Projector) but pay attention to the running systems, especially for video encoding. Older systems may not cope with h.264 and CD drives may not be fast enough to deliver the bitrate you want
  • alternatively, do it in HTML. I'd do this one but, once again, you need to know what machines you're dealing with. I love a simple tree menu for making navigation easy, but if you only have a few navigation points you can do something even easier.
  • package it on those "Business Card" CD-ROMS. Everyone loves those. Just kidding. Hate them.


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Noah KadnerRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 20, 2011 at 3:39:18 am

There's a reason CD-ROMS are no longer with us: they are obsolete...

Noah

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Mark SuszkoRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 24, 2011 at 4:09:02 pm

Here's the punchline: guess what kind of project just walked in my door yesterday? Uh-huh. They want it specifically on CD-Rom and on flash drives.

Like Snake Plisskin, this format is still alive.:-)


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Chris TompkinsRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Feb 24, 2011 at 4:12:23 pm

Snake Plisskin

Love it!

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Noah KadnerRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Mar 1, 2011 at 5:18:08 am

I would happily make an interactive, multimedia CD-ROM project featuring Snake!

Noah

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Mike CohenRe: CD-ROM in 2011
by on Mar 9, 2011 at 2:13:30 am

We offer most of our videos on dvd or cd-rom. Today it is about 80/20 in favor of dvd but that is a recent change. We are format agnostic. You want our content on a cd, dvd, usb stick, sd card, 8mm tape, vhs-c, or filmstrip? Just give us the address.
we author in both Director and Flash and often html with an exe player or ini file
Autorun is disabled on a lot of newer computers. Just include directions.

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