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Tom JProfile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:04:25 pm

Hello,
It's been quite sometime since I have been here last. However, in the past 2 or 3 weeks I noticed some changes being made (ie. search engine) and maybe one or two other things. What I also noticed was that the "view profile" link on the two machines I tested on (win2k svc pk4, and WinXp svc pk2) both with IE 6 the profile page comes up just plain text on nothing but a white page with the standard menu column on the left. The layout as I originally remember it, is gone and there is an error showing up on the page:

line: 155
char: 19
"elements" is null or not an object
url: (points to a "new_show_profile.cgi" script)

Anyhow, at first I thought it was my systems here, but then I noticed that the "view profile" works just fine in the old archived threads as it used to (ie. displaying an avatar (icon), breaking down ones system, location, etc.)

Just an FYI for you folks in case it is something you are unaware of...

Thanks,
Tom


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Eric BlissRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 18, 2005 at 4:50:18 pm

Okay, I've just tried a few profile links, on Firefox, IE, and a Linux box for good measure. I'm not seeing this error you're describing on any of them, in either active posts or archives. Could you give me the link to the page you were on when you got it?

Eric Bliss

systems design and integration
CreativeCow.Net

int main(void) {
printf("Hello World!n");
}


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Tom JRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 18, 2005 at 9:47:57 pm

Ok this should be interesting. I know it's overkill but I have a few minutes to do this, hope it helps. Remember that my system(s) for checking this are Win2k sp4 and WinXp sp2 both with IE6.

This may have been changed a loooooong time ago, but I have noticed that the new profile link the past few months envokes a totally new browser window as opposed to what I was used to with the javaScript pop-up (probably due to the pop-up killer proggy's out there, which is cool). So with my experience here, I get the following. Please note the findings on the threads with Rick Gerard below, as the archive messages use the javaScript openResizeWin.

This first profile view is from looking at yours right here from your reply:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_Eric.jpg

The error dialog is just from double clicking the "error on page" in the lower left status bar.

This one is from viewing my own profile here in this thread:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_Tom_J.jpg

Same thing from one of my replies WAY back in May 2001 (I believe it was one of my 1st posts), when I click the view profile link next to my name. The all white page with just listed info shows up.

thread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=2&postid=89...

Profile image:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_Tom_J2001.jpg

Now when I go back to 2 different threads with Rick Gerard as the author, here is what comes up for his profile.

1st (read enitre thread was chosen):
http://www.creativecow.net/forum/read_thread.php?threadid=312340&forumid=2&...

This Profile pop-up is what shows up on my screen:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_Rick2003.jpg

then 2nd (normal thread view) from 2001:
http://www.creativecow.net/forum/read_post.php?postid=10017308265594&forumi...

Profile image:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_Rick2001.jpg

I did notice that the user id was different for each of Rick's profiles. Hmmm. Let me try something here, I am going to search some of my old threads... Be right back...

Tom


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TomRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 18, 2005 at 10:05:47 pm

Interesting, I too have multiple id's as you can see from this reply entry.

I don't know how I ever created both under one email... Besides I thought I got rid of Tom, it doesn't matter perhaps just a momentary brain-fart on my part.

Tom J - id=582
Tom - id=2418

So this is what I found from "Tom" who is also me, at that time :>)

Thread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=2&postid=23...

Profile image:
http://members.cox.net/tjwebpost97/viewprofile_oldTom.jpg

So again I know it is WAY overkill, but I thought it may help you. As for my conclusions all I can say is perhaps it's one the following:

Naming conventions between the old style javascript (http) link is actually different, and the new "view profile" using a _blank browser?

When the change from creativecow.net moved to forums.creativecow.net?

A cookie issue between user id's, hence my reply here which I will check the profile after I post.

Sorry for the overkill :>) hope this helps,
Tom


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TomRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 18, 2005 at 10:06:56 pm

Nope same white page with the error on the bottom...

Tom


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Eric BlissRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 18, 2005 at 10:51:00 pm

Okay, many thanks for the in-depth reporting here This is what I call useful information! Now then, the answers...

First off, yes, the change of the look is due to the fact that we're running under the new system now - and the way it appears on your screen is indeed the way that it should be showing. The display was designed to be quite simple. Pictures only show up if the profile gives us one. And the reason for it not being in a popup window is indeed because we're trying to avoid issues with popup windows.

As far as the multiple different user ids for the same person... Some people have had multiple different accounts on the system - and there have been some errors in the past that have caused some of our long-term members to have their accounts duplicated - hence, the different profiles for the same person. Problem is, we're too small a team to be able to have somebody dedicated just to finding and fixing all of these errors in the historical portions of the database. All we can do is try to limit their occurance in new posts.

Finally, the error message that you're getting. I don't have a clue where THAT's coming from. I've tried looking at the exact pages you've given me the links for, and my copy of IE6 doesn't show the error message. Further, opening up the page source that the mechanism produces, there isn't even an "elements" tag in the source. And the line number and character position it refers to is right in the middle of the text of a javascript write command - a block of straight text that it shouldn't even be trying to interpret. If you could perhaps save a copy of the source of that page and e-mail it to me, I can take a look at the code that you're receiving, and compare it to what the mechanism is producing. My personal suspicion is that the code is getting mangled somewhere between the server and your browser. That, or it's a difference in the settings of IE on your machine versus the settings on my machine. And if that's the case... MINE'S BETTER!!!! :-P PPPHHPPTTT!!!

(We apologize for the excessive outbreak of nerd's ego at the end of the last paragraph... Nah, on second thought, we don't. :-)

Eric Bliss

systems design and integration
CreativeCow.Net

int main(void) {
printf("Hello World!n");
}


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Tom JRe: Profile viewing only works for archived threads not new ones?
by on Jul 19, 2005 at 11:36:43 am

It could be an IE setting on my end. Ahh! who knows... These two cinderblocks need some serious cleaning anyway, maybe there is something else deep inside the pores of their ancient civilized existance that I'm unaware of. :>)

As for your email I will send the source text like you requested to the one that is listed here at the Cow.

As always you can't satisfy every friggin' bloke out there like myself who says - Hey! wait a minute, this is not working, what the #$&!... :>)

L8r,
Tom


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