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B.J. AhlenFirefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 7:24:31 pm

When using Firefox I don't see the B I U [pic] [L] buttons when posting.

This would be really convenient to have, so I don't have to either do the equivalent manually or fire up an IE browser.

Is there a workaround for the current fiftythree million Firefox users (52,969,440 downloads to date) to access this?


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Eric BlissRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 7:55:24 pm

Huh. It seems those buttons only exist for people on Windows boxes who are using Internet Explorer. I never use IE, (yep, I'm another Firefox user) so I didn't even know that I was missing something. Same thing goes for all the Mac and Linux users it seems.

I'll take a look into fixing this.

And why do I have old 80's songs playing through my head???
"Don't know what you've got, till it's gone..." :-)



Eric Bliss

systems design and integration
CreativeCow.Net

int main(void) {
   printf("Hello World!n");
}


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Eric BlissRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 8:51:45 pm

Well, sorry. Looks like we can't do it. Here's the problem...

Many moons ago, when the Web was young, and Netscape ruled the browser tribes, a Language was born, a Messiah who would give Web Page Builders the power to imbue their children with "Interactivity". And the tribal elders raised the Language up to the heavens, and did verily name it.... "JavaScript".

Then the Evil Empire came along, under the rulership of its Dark Lord, who said, "Behold, a new world to conquer!" And he did verily send out his hordes of Evil Theives, who stole the Language, and cloned it - yet imperfectly, for nothing of the Evil Empire is done right. Thus, the clone looked like JavaScript, and mostly acted like JavaScript - yet there were differences. And the Cloners did verily name their Language... "JScript".

Thus began the Browser Wars.

Many generations were born, grew old, raised children of their own, and died, yet the war never ended. The Evil Empire did all it could to annihilate the ragtag tribes of browsers, yet the people resisted its overbearing posture. The Armies of Light, under the leadership of Sun, fought back to push the Evil Empire out of their homelands. Alas, their efforts were in vain. None had the power to stop the Empire from dominating any land it desired, as the Dark Lord sent forth his propaganda, that the Browser Fields were the inalienable right of the OS Lands to take by force.

Years passed.

In the shadows at the outer fringes of the Browser Fields, hope had been born anew. A young fox, born in fire, arose to challenge the Evil Empire for the right to his own land. Firefox (for so he was named), grandchild of the great Netscape, strode forth, waving the banner of that now ancient Language, "JavaScript".

Yet in the intervening years, JScript, the child of the Dark Lord, had grown, twisted and evil. Under the tutelage of its father, the Dark Lord, it grew powerful in the ways of the Binary, learning how to do acts that many considered "unnatural". And thus could it do that which JavaScript would not.

And that, my son, is why the tag editors will only work in Internet Explorer running on Windows. The Dark Side of the Binary is quicker, easier, more seductive - and the source of the HTML Tag insertion buttons. Only the most evil of Browsers can use it - which is why Firefox cannot.

I'm sure there's a moral to this story somewhere, but it's been lost to antiquity... a whopping 8 years ago.



Eric Bliss

systems design and integration
CreativeCow.Net

int main(void) {
   printf("Hello World!n");
}


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Ron LindeboomRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 10:12:39 pm



Damn, how would you like to quit coding and write for the Cow, Eric???

Will there be a movie? Or at least a cheap mini-series done by TNT???

Ron Lindeboom


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B.J. AhlenRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 10:21:20 pm

Alas, the Dark Lord has met with some frustrations too...

His most accomplished Prince of the Evil Empire, Long Horn of Eternal Darkness, is suffering from stunted growth and may not reach manhood in the lifetime of the Dark Lord.

See, the Dark Lord invited the Borg to help him with the conquering of all other life forms, but the Borg turned against him and paralyzed the Evil Empire with the mighty Meeting Cannon, and the Dark Lord was unable to produce any new offspring.

But his younger son, Ayyyeeeeee, challenged the Borg, saying "No matter how much you clog my code, people will still accept me, for I am the mighty Ayyyeeeeee."

The Borg realized that he was right. With much gnawing and gnashing of teeth, they muttered and mumbled and left for the Restaurant at the end of the Universe, where they were last seen drinking Hypergalactic Gargleblasters at an alarming pace.

But then, suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere, a new flaming hero reached Maximum Probability in earth orbit. "I am the Wizard of Open Collaboration. Send your e-mail address to bja7777 at yahoo.com, and a code reference will come that may be the answer to your quest. For, to every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven; A time to shoot, and a time to edit; a time to composite, and a time to post on the Mighty Board of the Great Bovine Empire; And the code reference may be such that people of all Faiths will be able to enjoy the fruits of this effort."



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Ron LindeboomRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 10:40:19 pm


Damn, you guys are so good that I am just curling up here in bed with the flu and a hot cup of tea, reading this story and hoping that the little guys win. I always loved the Ewoks, after all, and felt that even though they had those little fly-type fingoids that were all feathery-feathery and stuff, they could still rollie up their sleevies and -- with nothing up their sleeves -- call forth the great fly-fullolith to take them all to the compligain foray to sort this one out -- "Where at, man, dee thockist???"

A free copy of the new Creative Cow training disc to the first person who can tell me where that little bit of verbal nonsense came from???

I'll give you a hint: There are but four Small Faces...

Ron Lindeboom
creativecow.net


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B.J. AhlenRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 11:25:06 pm

Lyrics from the 60s Mod Rockers band?

I grew up listening to Radio Luxembourg at night when there was some reception.

208 meters wavelength, 1442 kHz, why do we remember these things?


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Ron LindeboomRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 11:33:59 pm



[B.J. Ahlen] "Lyrics from the 60s Mod Rockers band?"

Wow, BJ, you actually remember Small Faces, eh? ;o)

Radio Luxembourg, never heard it as I grew up in California but many of the bands I loved talked about it and some even made songs about it -- such as Camel who recalled it nostalgically in their "A Nod and A Wink" album of a couple of years back.

To win the prize you have to tell me what Small Faces album the reference is from???

:o)

Boomer


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B.J. AhlenRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 11, 2005 at 12:27:03 am

As they say, anybody who remembers the 60s wasn't actually there.... :O)

Radio Luxembourg was a big thing back then, when state-run radio all over Europe didn't have squat for anybody below retirement age ("...that was the winner of the 1964 Schnausenhausen Accordion Festival "playing 'A Night in Casablanca'.... Next, tomorrow's weather followed by the staff singing "God Save The Queen" before we close down for the night at 2100h. We will resume again at 0530h with Captain Craut's Calisthenics Program.").

Radio Luxembourg had to broadcast in French occasionally, I think it had something to do with their license, but the rest of the time it was all the best of especially British bands. They certainly were
not broadcasting for the Duchy of Luxembourg, a country barely as big as a mid-size L.A. suburb... Man it was great!!! Even brought me on a pilgrimage to the Liverpudlian Cavern, and some smoking-hot London clubs. Carnaby Street was incredible... I have great pictures in storage from my tour back then, Instamatic 100 photos in glorious Kodacolor, some of them were actually picked up for an exhibition in the late 60s.

This was also the beginning of my audio career, initially making fuzz boxes for guitarists who were looking for that powerful, ahem, smooth, sound that our parents loved so much :O)

After some years, Radio Caroline started up on a ship in international waters to do the same thing as Radio Luxembourg, but they were soon hounded out by the killjoy authorities.

And TV... If a program ended at 7:25pm, and the next program didn't start until 7:30pm, the viewers were entertained with a simple wall clock showing the time with a slow-moving clicking second hand, an even slower minute hand, and a really really desperately slow hour hand, all the way until the very properly dressed presenter appeared at 7:30:00:00:00:00 to advise what program was up next.

Drove teens crazy for sure...

I can't remember the song you're looking for, was it Ogden's Nuts or something like it?




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Ron LindeboomRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 11, 2005 at 12:43:34 am


Great story. Me, I spent a lot of time around the Los Angeles 60s music scene -- ran lights for Piccadilly/Omega's Eye lights. Did lights for bands like The Leaves, The Seeds, The Hook, The Music Machine and many, many others. Later on, I ran lights for Three Dog Night before they even made their first album.

Here, we had KRLA AM-1110 and Dave Diamond in "The Diamond Mind." It was pretty amazing and even Phil Proctor of "The Firesign Theater" DJ'd on KRLA for quite some time. After FM came along, there was KPPC broadcasting from the basement of a church in Pasadena. Kaleidescope played many times live out of the basement, as well as many other great bands out of the LA area.

And yes, you are right that it was the "Ogdens Nut Gone Flake" album.

Thanks for playing -- unfortunately, there is no home game version to send you home with. So, email your address to me at ron@creativecow.net and I'll send you a free copy of the Cow's new AE/Particle Illusion training DVD.

Best regards,

Ron Lindeboom


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Ron LindeboomRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 7:55:41 pm


I assume you are using Firefox on a Mac, am I correct?

The functions that you point out are Windows-only functions because they use a method not supported on the Mac and which draws on features that -- if you are using Firefox on Windows -- may not be supported there, either.

We are basically a Mac shop here and had to make the decision as to whether or not we'd add a function for Windows users that we ourselves could not use. We opted to give Windows users the feature even though I have never been able to use it myself. (Kathlyn uses both Macs and Windows when she surfs but I only use my Mac.)

As to the 52 million Firefox users, we get very very few Firefox users here at the Cow. (Like you, I use it myself but Firefox accounts for so few users here at the Cow that it is not even in the Top 15 browsers in our site statistics.)

We are working to replace the existing system and so we will not be amending this existing interface. We will be looking at adding this functionality to many more browsers in the new system and will if the ways exist to allow us to facilitate it.

Best regards,

Ron Lindeboom


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B.J. AhlenRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 10, 2005 at 8:51:23 pm

Even though I have been a very long term Mac user, for the moment I'm using only Windows systems.
No flames please, I'd go back to Macs if I could.

In the webserver browser logs, I wonder if Firefox is listed as Firefox or Mozilla?

I would expect that many of the top 15 browsers are search bots...


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Bob BonniolRe: Firefox support for posting here
by on May 17, 2005 at 3:22:39 am

Wow, not even in the top 15... Our whole studio has been Firefox for at least 3 months now, I know a bunch of others who have rolled too... It's wild that we're so few.

I LOVE Firefox.

So there';s just no equivallent Javascript now ? I remember when you made that call Boomie (at the time I was on PC, and I remember it was early days for the cow). There's no way to get something like that going ?

Here's irony for ya... I just realized I'm typing this in Safari ! Ha ! ooppss...

-Bob Bonniol

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