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Re: Expression:Delete all ...
by yikesmikes in the Adobe After Effects Expressions Forum
This works on AE 6.5 1) Select all layers 2) "ee" to expose expressions only 3) select all the expressions, by pulling a rectangle selection down, starting just under the layer "twirly" (to the left of the stopwatch) then pulling that rectangular selection all the way down from the top...

9 years ago   read more
Re: minimize, maximise and close
by Bartek Skorupa in the Adobe After Effects Forum
I'm not sure how it works on Windows. On Mac you can click Cmd+ , so maybe you can try Ctl+ Bartek Skorupa Warszawa, Poland...

5 years ago   read more
Re: how can I copy composition After Effects
by franco strobbia in the Adobe After Effects basics Forum
I think that you are missing something... When you say that copy a comp, I think that you are copying a layer. Pay attention to separate what a comp is, and that comp working as a layer. If you select your Comp1 in the timeline and duplicate it, then you...

5 years ago   read more
NVIDIA Card with Yosemite and Premiere causing major graphics failure
by Chip Burns in the Adobe Premiere Pro Forum
For the past few months I have been experiencing extreme graphics failures, primarily when running Adobe Premiere Pro CC 14. This photo is the start of what I'm talking about: The video display begins to distort and carry over into other applications and OS windows throughout the machine. Eventually the...

6 months ago   read more
Article: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Kylee Wall in the COW - Tutorials Forum
NAB Show Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show Trade show exhibitors are all competing to be the loudest, shiniest and sexiest, says Creative COW Contributing Editor Kylee Wall. I'm writing to ask you to consider how your conduct can help make the exhibit hall a more inviting...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Noah Kadner in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Couldn't agree more- the booth babes are a major turn off at NAB. Would much rather talk to someone who knows the product and is able to discuss it- no matter what they look like. When I see a booth clearly staffed with stock eye candy I see a company...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Kylee Wall in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Hey Bob, sorry you feel that way. You really should come to my panel on gender inequality in post production on Monday, April 13th at 5PM in the North Hall. I think it would be very enlightening. In fact, I'll save you a seat in the front row. Adobe can...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Tim Wilson in the COW - Tutorials Forum
[Bob Zelin] "I did not read Kylee's post" "...but I will still respond without knowing what I'm actually responding to." Bob, if anybody said that about a storage issue, you would tear them apart. Practically every day, I see you tell people to stop talking and consult with experts. I...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Tim Wilson in the COW - Tutorials Forum
You said [Mitch Ives] " I also think you should allow others who don't choose to engage in it. " AFTER I said [Tim Wilson] "I'm not saying you need to care about this. " Problem solved....

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Bob Zelin in the COW - Tutorials Forum
ok - I read the entire article now. Every word and every image that Kylee posted. I still don't agree with the article. Maybe because I look at myself. No one hands me my opportunities. No one said (certainly at the beginning) - "hey Bob, you are a white guy,...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Article: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Ty Vann in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Wow. Seriously? I'm surprised that some men in this industry, of all industries, would deny that the glass ceiling or sexism exist. Simply because you are not aware of it, don't experience it, or can't relate to it does not mean it does not exist. It's not personal, people. It's...

4 months ago   read more
@Cris Daniel
by Kylee Wall in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Would you mind citing specifically where I make broad assumptions about how selfish, rotten and stupid men are? Also where I assert that men are a hybrid of Archie Bunker and Larry Flint? Or ascribe nefarious motives to all white men? Because my point is (and has been since my...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Aindreas Gallagher in the COW - Tutorials Forum
for my own bit the author is, from a third party saying it, just sound and straightforward - writing clearly and well - what she's describing is ragingly obvious too. a room filled only with men jostling under the realisation it's only men is a mortal lock stupider room ....

4 months ago   read more
Re: The Magnetic Timeline -- Thoughts on Apple's New Paradigm
by Tim Wilson in the COW - Tutorials Forum
[David Lawrence] "I believe the reason Tim W. marked this article as "new" was to highlight the new intro I recently wrote reflecting on how my view of FCPX has changed over the past four years." Yes, and of this forum." Oops! This is an unintended byproduct of the much...

2 months ago   read more
Article: Building a Broadcast Studio with Blackmagic Design
by Bob Zelin in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Blackmagic Design Building a Broadcast Studio with Blackmagic Design Master facility designer Bob Zelin has been building studios for his clients based around the offerings from Blackmagic Design, and he's here to tell you: this is for real. The pieces are here now, and they fit together beautifully -- and...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Orson Welles' Brief, Passionate Love Affair with Betacam
by chuck Weiss in the COW - Tutorials Forum
"It must be remembered that in 1985 video was still a very new thing and we were pioneers. I still had a one of kind, handmade video facility." Having worked at another video production and post-production facility, TriTronics in Burbank from the mid 1970s and throughout the 1980s, I'm afraid...

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Re: Orson Welles' Brief, Passionate Love Affair with Betacam
by Michael Patrick Scott in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Interesting but you and Orson were wrong about Reagan. People like you and Orson were walking around telling people Reagan was going to bring us into a big war. Hey, you spent a whole paragraph talking about your dissdain for Reagan. You shouldn't have gotten political....

2 weeks ago   read more
Video: Thomas Horne - Reel 2009
by Thomas Horne in the COW - Videos Forum
Thomas Horne - Reel 2009 Contains my work as an animator, compositor, and director. Work done in the years 2004-2009, with an emphasis on recent work. Look underneath the video for my role in each shot. Contact me at: thorne06@mac.com watch demo reel...

6 years ago   read more
Video: A Day Made of Glass
by Rough House in the COW - Videos Forum
A Day Made of Glass Corning's "A Day Made of Glass" is a worldwide viral sensation with over 12 million views on YouTube. The video shows technologies evolving with Corning's specialized glass products in everyday life in the near future. "Glass" has been featured on hundreds of blogs, tech sites...

4 years ago   read more
Video: Color Grading Reel - Benoit Cote - 2014
by Benoit Cote in the COW - Videos Forum
Color Grading Reel - Benoit Cote - 2014 2014 color grading reel. Edit by Emeline Declerck Music by Jack White - High Ball Stepper cote-b.com watch demo reel...

1 year ago   read more
Video: Color Grading Breakdown
by Roman Zinaenkov in the COW - Videos Forum
Color Grading Breakdown Software: Davinci Resolve 11 All videos are taken from open sources watch demo reel...

8 months ago   read more
Video: Through African Eyes
by Anthony Berube in the COW - Videos Forum
Through African Eyes www.ThroughAfricanEyes.net or https://vimeo.com/ondemand/30573 Discover the Africa you do NOT see on CNN. Follow Dennis Hayes, former interim CEO and President of the NAACP as he discovers his ancestral homeland. Travel back in time to the slave trade and the music and dance of Africa. Let the people...

4 months ago   read more
Video: Kristopher S Kimlin - Cinematography Reel 2015
by Kristopher Kimlin in the COW - Videos Forum
Kristopher S Kimlin - Cinematography Reel 2015 Cinematography Reel for DoP Kristopher S. Kimlin Feature Film, Commercials & Music Videos Birmingham, AL. & Los Angeles, CA. For Rates & Booking: kris@kriskimlin.com kriskimlindp.com vimeo.com/kriskimlindp Song: Warm Shadow - FINK watch demo reel...

3 months ago   read more
Video: Mettle Sneak Peak - Version 1.75 New Features
by Chris Bobotis in the COW - Videos Forum
Mettle Sneak Peak - Version 1.75 New Features Full environment - the volcano, flowing lava, terrain and sky are all generated in After Effects with FreeForm Pro using Displacement Mapping and the new SKY feature in the Environment section. One small exception: CC Particle World, (comes with Ae) is used...

3 months ago   read more
Video: Drake Welsh Color Reel
by Drake Welsh in the COW - Videos Forum
Drake Welsh Color Reel Since the original link is offline, thought I would re-upload my Color Reel! In addition to color services and finishing, I also offer motion design! Check out that reel as well! Achieved with DaVinci Resolve and After Effects. watch demo reel...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I think that the thing that will be most telling will be if Adobe begins missing their subscription projections. So far, they have managed to add the numbers they were expecting to. But if those numbers begin to fall short of projections, then it will likely be the case that...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Here's the link from Google News. It worked for me and may still work for others: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=6&ved=0CEEQqQIoADAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.wsj.com%2Fcfo%2F2015%2F01%2F16%2Fadobe-systems-cfo-managing-business-model-transformation%2F&ei=Scy5VMDHKonxoASek4DgAw&usg=AFQjCNHQdj_4fss0Mq7CnDNjNqGKO3nW7A&sig2=e8M8hnfxUKV1Zb6aDua-jA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.cGU Thanks for pointing to this article. It's fascinating to read these words from the CFO himself. The self-righteousness is pretty spectacular. ‘Like it or leave.’ Well, OK then. One last key set of...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Ricardo Marty] "yes i want cc only, to fail" I think that really sums up your opinions - it sounds sad and bitter. But hey, every person their point of view. You are right, there are nothing that I can say, suggest or argue that will change your mind. But...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "It's worked out pretty well for Apple. ;)" Yes it certainly did. Why is that? I'd say that's because Apple has the exact opposite attitude and business strategy from Adobe. Here's a recent quote from Tim Cook: “We design our products to surprise and delight everyone who uses...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
It sounds like Mr. Garrett assumes that Adobe won't face any kind of new competition. All takes is a nudge. New competitors to key Adobe products could be a massive push. Dave LaRonde Promotion Producer KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I don't beleve for a minute that this Garrett guy takes his own words to heart. "Burn the boats.." If the guy actuslly believed it, CS6 wouldn't still be availabe for purchase. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that two-versions-old suite of applications is helping Adobe stay profitable. Helping a...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "Adobe Story CC + 28 apps (incl PPro, AE, Scout, Speedgrade, Photoshop, Acrobat Pro to mention a few) + Behance + Typekit + market - do you have that in your CS6? " Nothing has reached 'killer app' status though. Behance, cloud storage, Typekit and the Market...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "None! the "Cloud" name, at present is mostly just that - a name. Adobe aren't pushing the Creative Cloud as actual cloud technology, surely?" That's my point. Creative Cloud is currently a marketing name and revenue model. This revenue model clearly benefits Adobe and for some customers, it's...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Steve Connor in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Lawrence] "This revenue model clearly benefits Adobe and for some customers, it's a good fit. But there's no technical reason why it couldn't be offered as desktop software as well. In order to get more than just the "low hanging fruit" subscribers, " They have taken a gamble on...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "He said "From a customer point of view, you have to nudge them to the new model, slowly but surely, by not giving them a new option any more." that's why there's no other option so if there's no perpetual licenses available in a couple of years we'll...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Dave LaRonde] ""Burn the boats.." If the guy actuslly believed it, CS6 wouldn't still be availabe for purchase. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that two-versions-old suite of applications is helping Adobe stay profitable. Helping a LOT. Burn the boats? Yeah, right....." This particular point seemed obvious to me long...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] ". I'm just poking fun at the fact that no matter what Adobe does some in this forum will give the flak." Some people just hate Adobe. Agenda. Gotcha Funny how that started right when they announced mandatory subscriptions. I'm having trouble finding all the posts slamming Adobe...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Isn't your agenda (as well as David's, Jim's, etc.,) to generate enough consumer backlash against Adobe that Adobe has no choice but to start offering PLs again in some capacity?" I wouldn't frame it that way Andrew. Speaking only for myself, my agenda is to get Adobe to...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Interesting use of language on the CFO's part, 'burn' the boats - no way back. This conjures up images for me of war time, desperate measures, destroy it so that your enemy can't use it. Then...'nudge' I'm being nudged! but the CEO of the company said they were 'aggressively' moving...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I think David Lawrence's earlier comments are right on. Adobe's decision to go sub-only has alienated millions of their customers and also left millions of dollars on the table. Had they decided to allow both avenues (i.e. subscription as well as perpetual) they could have had the best of both...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "The statement is unproven superstitions on behalf of a small angry mob ;-) " Yup....a "small angry mob" that currently resides within a population numbering approximately 9 million! ;) As noted earlier, time will tell which side is correct. Adobe started this CC thing about 2 years...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "So they fall into the middle ground between "too greedy" and "not quite greedy enough"? ;)" No, what I think we're saying is well described in this little story ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goose_That_Laid_the_Golden_Eggs _______________________ David Lawrence art~media~design~research propaganda.com publicmattersgroup.com http://lnkd.in/Cfz92F facebook.com/dlawrence twitter.com/dhl vimeo.com/dlawrence/albums...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Another number of things can happen between now the 2020 forecast. There has been much change recently. Fusion has been recently acquired by BMD and no more subscription plan. It could be bundled with Resolve in another package. Resolve could be a NLE and finishing tool, heading that direction. Need...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "In 2010 Apple execs cashed in over 1 million shares of APPL. http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/26/apple-executives-cash-in-over-1-million.. . In 2013 execs (including Cook) cashed in over 100,000 shares. http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/27/numerous-apple-executives-sell-millions-wort.. . They must not have any confidence in Apple... ;) " Naww, Andrew....it's more of a case that Tim and company are running...

5 months ago   read more
Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
When Adobe started this crazy ride, my friend Charles Reilly made a video about why the move by Adobe to mandatory subscriptions was such a ominous development. Among many reasons was his questions about where it might lead us if the other software giants follow suit, as they were certainly...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "However: Windows 10 will be FREE to users that has Windows 7 onwards installed. So you can't really be complaining about a free product, can you? Why is it free? Because it will, like iTunes is for Apple, be a Window where Microsoft can offer you other...

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Re: Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "I share the same concerns as Walter Soyka about the long term viability of the 'software as a freebie' business model. Is BM buying up established players and then giving them away for peanuts (while tying them to BM hardware of course) really that great of a solution?...

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Apple Posts Biggest Quarterly Earnings of any Company EVER
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Top Ten Largest Corporate Quarterly Earnings Of All Time: 1. Apple, 2015 1Q – $18.04 billion 2. Gazprom, 2011 1Q – $16.24 billion 3. Royal Dutch Shell, 2008 2Q – $16.18 billion 4. ExxonMobil, 2008 3Q – $15.27 billion 5. Apple, 2014 1Q – $13.10 billion 6. Apple, 2013 1Q...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Autodesk to go (Mostly) Subscription Only on 2/1/2016
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Here's a key passages from yesterdays Studio Daily post: "Aware of the general resistance to subscription-only software licensing in some corners of the industry, Autodesk is treading cautiously but deliberately. "We will partner with customers through this transition," Autodesk Senior VP of Industry Strategy and Marketing Andrew Anagnost told StudioDaily,...

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Re: Autodesk to go (Mostly) Subscription Only on 2/1/2016
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] ""Users with perpetual licenses will receive benefits, including software upgrades, as long as their maintenance subscriptions are active. However, multi-year maintenance subscription discounts will be discontinued. If you don't renew your maintenance subscription, you will be able to keep using the upgraded software under your existing perpetual license...

5 months ago   read more
Nearly $12.5 million in last 30 days...
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Adobe CEO has sold nearly $12.5 million worth of his Adobe shares in the last 30 days. Recently, he "unexpectedly" sold 36,762 shares and had earlier sold an additional 136,762 shares. According to this article (see link), he now owns 276,181 shares of Adobe stock: http://www.octafinance.com/warning-adobe-systems-nasdaqadbe-optimists-shantanu-narayen-just-unloaded-36762-shares/ That's a pretty fair...

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Re: Nearly $12.5 million in last 30 days...
by Gabe Strong in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I was always taught you shouldn't burn your bridges. Whatever. Do what you gotta do Adobe. I'll do the same. Currently, that involves putting in a lot of time learning FCP X, so when CS6 doesn't work so well anymore....... Gabe Strong G-Force Productions www.gforcevideo.com...

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New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Check this out. This looks serious. InDesign competition later this year. http://www.creativebloq.com/computer-arts/first-real-alternative-photoshop-launched-and-its-free-21514137 Jim Wiseman Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.1.4, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.5, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
In some ways it looks better than Photoshop, and I think a lot of people or more than ready for apps that are built on new code base that takes better advantage of new developments in hardware, instead of the same old stuff. And with a Windows version on the...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I wonder who they're referring to here?...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Just as a reminder....when I made my first posts on this site some months ago, I made mention of the new Affinity line of applications that were under development from the English company called Serif. Affinity Designer (a vector program which is meant to ultimately be a competitor with Illustrator)...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
lets just pray that adobe wont purchase them. ricardo marty...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Jim Wiseman] "Affinity also has a Facebook page. One feature that jumped out was that Designer (Illustrator competitor) and Photo will share a common file format. Designer has been getting raves and high sales numbers on the Mac App Store. Affinity Photo beta was just released and is available for...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
One of many similar posts I've seen in the last 24 hours: "....After trying this for about two hours I have just been on to Adobe to cancel my creative cloud sub (they don't make it as bloody easy to cancel as signing up do they). I've been mainly using...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
As soon as Fusion makes its Mac debut, looking at it to replace both Photoshop and After Effects though Motion will still have its place. The best part? Even the free version of Fusion comes with a particle emitter. Particles are fun!...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] " Even the free version of Fusion comes with a particle emitter. Particles are fun!" Don't get me going!:...

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Re: Nothing has changed - including never ending discounts
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Adobe might be on it´s alltime high the last days. But the whole Application market does very well over the last month. I think their CEO threw out that big amounts of his stock to invest it in AVID or Apple. These companies - who provide fair licenses & not...

4 months ago   read more
Re: More subscriptions
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "Looks like MS Office will be subscription-only from here on out if I read this right." See this article: http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/05/microsoft-office-mac-2016-preview/ "Pricing for a standalone version for Mac without requiring an active subscription is expected closer to launch." Microsoft is smart enough to know that no perpetual option would...

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Re: Speedgrade CS6 or Resolve 11 lite?
by Oliver Peters in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Smith] "Does Resolve do superior work? Does it have more features? It certainly doesn't feel easier to use from my first experiments." I work in both and if you are going to use a standalone grading tool, Resolve is the way to go. Several reasons: 1. SG CS6 misses...

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Re: More subscriptions
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "As a consumer, I hate it, not because it's inherently bad, but rather because a lot of companies are going to it. After awhile this all starts to add up to serious money and like your cable bill, gets to a point where you want to start cutting...

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Re: Apple Replaces AT&T on the Dow Jones Industrials Index
by Tim Wilson in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Jim Wiseman] "It's pretty clear you have an anti Apple attitude." Quite the contrary. I think they've changed the world in ways that they never even get credit for. And are about to do so again, twice, in ways that most of the COW is fighting me on. I'm working...

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What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
For those who are of the opinion that this "cloud" named thing is loved by most users... Only a few old world fellows don´t like to rent... A view ratings of CC at Amazon (where it´s available): USA: 1.5 Stars ( Amazon USA ) Germany: 2 Stars ( Amazon Germany...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
fine for you. but if you read money is not the reason behind most of the post here. ricardo marty...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I have nothing against Adobe, nor do I think they are full of greed. To me it is a business model, one that I do not and, for the moment, cannot agree with, with all due respect. To me, the business model, as is for the moment, has nothing to...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Rainer Schubert] "If I think of the access to my files, they hold the key, which I rent and give it back to them. Not physical - indeed - but virtual & with the same effect." I'm not concerned about whether you perceive it as a rental, or whether you...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "you can always resume your subscription to Adobe CC - which can be by the app" As I wrote, or? You can rent the key to access again. [Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "you can always create master files that can be opened in other programs" Tell me the...

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Re: Access to files (For Rainer & Chris)
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
for my money that's all basically wrong. exhaustively argued but wrong. I do stems and stuff too - also clean masters, textless masters etc. that has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to return to modify originated work. that exists in the project file. tortuous methodologies to stripe output...

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Re: new video software survey from the cow
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
yes, add to that the dip in cc subscriptions in q1. its seems like they are concerened. ricardo marty oh i so hope that resolve gets its act together. with fusion....

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Re: bundling changes
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Ricardo Marty] "Adobe will be doing some bundling changes and promotions to offset the disapointing results." I agree - a possibility. After blowing off even loyal CC subscribers when asked for a lower priced bundle option, I'll bet they may try to correct trends in subscription numbers with package fiddling....

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Re: bundling changes
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
abode just added a new cloud based on documents. they took acrobat out cc and added it to a new app purchased. its basically going to compete with google docs. so maybe they can add some more subscribers and call adobe cc a total succsess. they might divide cc by...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
yes, they dont want our money. ricardo marty...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Given that with the current model, I won't be renting software from Adobe, they are putting themselves in a position where as a customer, I represent a bad deal for them. Actually, as a consumer, I don't look at a product and really consider whether it represents a bad deal...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Billy Payn] "Actually, as a consumer, I don't look at a product and really consider whether it represents a bad deal for the company, I rather look at it as whether or not it is a good or bad deal for me, and I reserve the right to decide where...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
The upgrade cycle was not an even frequency, and sometimes the upgrades were not attractive enough to tempt me to 1 spend the cash or 2 spend the time uninstalling then reinstalling software, and if I did, working out why it was doing things differently, like conformimg audio ~ some...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Marco Catania in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I’m following the Adobe Creative Cloud Debate very interested for a long time. And I would like to make some comments. I cannot understand, why a lot people from the pro CC side seem not to accept, that the contra CC side has no intention to take something away from...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by Herbert van der wegen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
April 1st joke, right? ;-P /*----------------------------------------------------*/ System: Win7 64bit - i7 920@3.6Ghz, p6t Deluxe v1, 48gb (6x8gb RipjawsX), ATI 7970 3gb, EVGA 590 3GB, Revodrive X2 240gb, e-mu 1820. Screens: 2 x Samsung s27a850ds 2560x1440, HP 1920x1200 in portrait mode...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
the creative cloud management tool hasn't dropped a beat once to be honest. I paid by the year, so it's one and done. You'll likely get grabbed more than me in a way. I'm less PS ID and more AE Ppro. The cloud is very focused on design assets -...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] "For me the giveaway was "All things considered, I guess I can always go back if this doesn't work out." " If you want to know the true meaning of my original post, do the following: 1) Go back to the original post and pick out the FIRST...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Miller] "If you want to know the true meaning of my original post, do the following: 1) Go back to the original post and pick out the FIRST letter appearing in each sentence (e.g. the first letter in the first sentence is "H"...the first letter in the second sentence...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by Oliver Peters in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Aindreas Gallagher] "Either playback will begin with no audio, audio will cut out a few seconds in, or it will arbitrarily only play the AV audio and ignore the music track.... " I've seen this in SAN environments. Does it happen mainly when accessing a project in a different room...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Looks like it's time...
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Agree totally with Chris on this one. At the moment, any motion graphics work I need to do is not complicated so Motion fits my needs. Most of the realtime, or close to it, previews are a big benefit of Motion. Course it will not be realtime with enough layers...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Any Adobe Reps? Stuck in Customer Service...
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Hey David, Yes, I was the one who originally pointed you on your road to destruction with getting a permanent license for Acrobat. [David Miller] "So, it was the "desktop" version with a perpetual license...not the rental or "subscription" version. I put my money where my mouth is. I will...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Any Adobe Reps? Stuck in Customer Service...
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "To be blunt: Sitting on fence will not resolve your current situation. So you either have to find new tools that can do the job, or change the way that you do business with your clients - like Adobe have done with theirs. We don't have to...

3 months ago   read more
Fusion 8 NAB
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
A follow up to Riccardo's post. Just back from NAB. I didn't have time to look at Resolve improvements and being that I'm not an editor, wont comment at this point in that regard. However, quick additional thoughts regarding Blackmagic and Fusion 8: Steve Roberts with Blackmagic (the creator of...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Fusion 8 NAB
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] "One more observation, just updated FCP Xand Motion, nice improvements there. I am optomistic that Apple and BMD have viable alternatives." For the first time since this debate began 2 years ago, instead of trying to work to change (or fight) Adobe, I'm simply excited at permanently leaving...

3 months ago   read more
Think I may have found Customer Services.
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Just got back from a trip round Queensland down under, and couldn't resist. Actually, when I saw this, I turned the camper van round and made the girls wait while I took the picture. 'Why did you take a picture of that road sign?' A bit naughty, and lo -...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Think I may have found Customer Services.
by Mark Suszko in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Obviously a toll road?...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Think I may have found Customer Services.
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Such fertile soil, couldn't resist....

2 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe might be about to get Nuke(d)
by Herbert van der wegen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I believe the original article appeared in the Sunday Times. It is entirely speculative, and quite badly written and researched. Modo is NOT a "new sketch product" - it is a powerful 3d application, with some of the best (polygonal) 3d modeling tools in the industry. "Adobe is also interested...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe might be about to get Nuke(d)
by Craig Howard in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
You are dreaming. Adobe have made huge in roads into the post prod market and captured a substantial new user base...and done so by doing exactly this. Acquiring technology and building it into a democratised product at a lower cost than others provided. Have you seen the cost of Nuke...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe might be about to get Nuke(d)
by Florian Sepp in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
thanks for that interesting view on the situation. sorry... i was not aware of any subscription on the linked website. I guess taking the developement from 1986 on, as a base for a financial decision today might be risky. but talking about longer term development. besides a one-off in the...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe might be about to get Nuke(d)
by Florian Sepp in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
thanks for your post, I enyoj this discussion and I would like to response propperly. but unfortunately i now have little time, and to write longer texts in a foreign language that go further than samalltalk is always a time consuming challenge for me. so maybe just some small statements:...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Adobe just past $80 a share - highest ever.
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "As I am writing this post, there are not a single Adobe advert in sight on this page. Avid, Blackmagic, Quantel, Imagineer Systems - to mention a few is displayed. But no Adobe." Their "last days before discounts end" campaign just ended. You aren't seriously implying that...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Get this.....
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Well, to my mind it's more of a question if Adobe even decides to pursue it at all. 10 years ago, HD was the big new thing. 6 years ago 2K was the big new thing. 2 years ago 4K was the big new thing. In two years, what will...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Another article....
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I don´t think, that they will hold their Creative Monopoly over the next couple of years. They are still concentrating on new fields with their Marketing cloud - which makes more and more money (and without that, Adobes numbers/income would be a much bigger disaster). All these efforts like the...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Aindreas Gallagher] "nd sooner or later adobe corporate are going to have to answer to the sell they made those people. The subscription financial numbers aren't close to making sense currently, and they just opened the 40% discount to anyone on two feet wearing shoes. you'd think there's a moron...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I've been speculating that Adobe had a five year plan going into this. The first couple of years were naturally going to be rough and I think the Q4 numbers for 2015 will be the first real milestone numbers. If they are trending the way Adobe wants them to go...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "Like Adobe did, maybe Twitter needs to hire an outsider for the post of CEO in order to jump the company forward ;-)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yigV0GYGQ...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Dominic Deacon] "As I've mentioned here before that video comes from a really anomalous period when the Aussie dollar was at more than parity to the US. Now that it's a more realistic level even with the old pricing structure we wouldn't be being ripped off too badly if at...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] " And despite the 2.5 years since that "damaging" clip the CEO of Adobe seems safe (for now) in his seat as his share-price is jumping upwards. As opposed to Twitter trading at $36, down from a high of $69 in January 2014 - now that my...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Gary Huff in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "Hey Chris, I don't know why you bother? " Question of the year, and it's only June!...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "Why do you bother, even when you are wrong?" A question most appropriately directed to those, like yourself, that spend so much time posting on this forum in spite of the fact you have everything you want from Adobe. If I loved software subscriptions I wouldn't spend...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] "A question most appropriately directed to those, like yourself, that spend so much time posting on this forum in spite of the fact you have everything you want from Adobe. If I loved software subscriptions I wouldn't spend one minute on this forum attacking those who disagree with...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] " Come on, if you are big enough to suggest that someone is dishonest and calling a person creepy, then you should be grown up enough to deal with the critiques of your previous statement. Let's hear your response, rather than poor deflection tactics." If you want...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "But is he dishonest and creepy?" Yes mads, he is. When this place was in full froth there were posts on him showing bloomberg videos of him answering basic questions around engineering staff numbers now during and then after the push to a viable subscriber base. The...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Wall Street says to the 2019 adobe CEO - why aren't you fully monetising 5 mill captive subscribers?
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Aindreas: [Aindreas Gallagher] "You may need to own the fact that you're basically trolling here." I don't know whether to be offended or take your comment as a compliment? However, as I am neither hiding behind a false identity, or intentionally posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages I think...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: more debates
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
BTW, my personal favorite so far: "The sun will fart flowers before I rent software." Inarticulate. But somewhat demonstrative don't you think?...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: more debates
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] ""The sun will fart flowers before I rent software."" Well, the sun is a giant ball of explosive gas which is required for life (including flowers) so, figuratively speaking, one could say the sun does farts flowers. Just saying......

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: more debates
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Getting a bit tired of hearing about Adobe's share price, Mads, since that is the real problem. Wall Street speculators being treated with more respect than their customers. Certainly doesn't have to do with how much cash they are clearing at the bottom line. Maybe you should move to an...

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Re: more debates
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Mads, I've been on this board since before it existed. Search Walter's comment about "chopped liver" on the old board when Adobe announced rentals only. I think my response to that characterization along with the outrage of many others directed at Adobe's "policy change" had something to do with this...

1 week ago   read more
Re: more debates - conf call
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Adobe recently had their quarterly earnings report. Then there was a conference call where adobe ceo tried to talk up CC. Found a site that put up a transcript of the conference call: http://www.thestreet.com/story/13189685/5/adobe-systems-adbe-earnings-report-q2-2015-conference-call-transcript.html NOTE: this is a corrected link address from original post Some details from that transcript (analyst...

1 week ago   read more
Re: more debates - conf call
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Wow is this a treasure trove of info. Still going through it, but this TOTALLY jumped out at me: Shantanu Narayen (President, CEO): Kash, I think you are alluding to the numbers that we've given in terms of the Creative Suite install base being over 12 million. Clearly the innovation...

1 week ago   read more
Re: more debates - conf call
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Mads... I had originally read the Q2 report and that's where the quotes that I posted came from. I don't know how I managed to end up providing the wrong address link for it....after copying the quotes, I had gone straight up to the active address field at the top...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Todd Kopriva in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Dave, your post wasn't removed, and you weren't banned. Your post is right here, and it has been responded to multiple times: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1882442 If you have email notifications turned on, you should be getting notifications of the responses. It looks like the thread was moved to the main Creative Cloud...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Adobe has always said there would still be versioning, just that feature upgrades are no longer solely tied to when new versions come out." It's a misconception that has been perpetuated by Adobes new marketing strategy (and also its silence when analysts get it wrong). Many industry reviews...

1 week ago   read more
Re: more debates - conf call
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
So with all these millions of CC subscribers having been converted from previously happy CS users, there may be only a handful of people sticking with CS6 and 5. I'd like to ask what about all those people who were previously either not able or willing to stump up the...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] " You just proved my point. Again. From Wiki: Software as a service (SaaS; pronounced /sæs/ or /sɑːs/[1]) is a software licensing and delivery model in which software is licensed on a subscription basis and is centrally hosted.[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service " Sorry, can't help myself - I'm doing a...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] " Sadly Chris - once again, you get ZERO marks as you are once again: wrong. Adobe is a Software as a Service (subscription is the key-word). However, if you had bothered giving Adobe, and everybody else the courtesy of down-loading it, before becoming an expert on...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "They, and many more, are all gaming the man made construct we call the free market as much as they can until either get caught breaking the law or consumers have enough a start a backlash ." Which explains why this weird forum still limps along I suppose....

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] "Which explains why this weird forum still limps along I suppose. " Hey, w/o you guys there's no chance of a perfect ending. Perfect ending, IMO, being a legit competitor to all of Adobe's offerings appearing because competition is awesome. And, ironically, if Adobe offered a perpetual license...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Gary Huff] "ou are engaging in a logical fallacy known as "appeal to authority". Who has granted authority to Cisco that their definition of SAAS is the absolute correct one?" You're right. We should ignore how Cisco defines SAAS and defer to Mads Nybo Jørgensen....

7 days ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Tim Wilson in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "suggesting that ONLY a subscription model can support rapid software development and innovation in the modern era is false on it's face" It's also not at all what he's saying. The point is that innovation can accelerate when decoupled from having to also drive upgrade revenue. There are...

4 days ago   read more
Re: Not Banned in Boston, but Banned on Adobe
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Gary Huff]: Not to mention the mistake that is the entirety of your original post. Yeah, the whole world ought to know by now that the Advanced Settings in a software installer should default to destroying your existing software, right? What was I thinking? Silly me, pal. Dave LaRonde Promotion...

3 days ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I feel very strongly that this is true: "The problem seems to be quite simple: they’re doing too much, with unrealistic deadlines. We don’t need major OS releases every year. We don’t need each OS release to have a huge list of new features. We need our computers, phones, and...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This is true of any software. We ALL want the software to be made stable before new features are released. WE have this talk all the time about NLEs too. We want Avid/FCP/Adobe current feature set to be trouble free, BEFORE we add new ones. Adding new onto the troubled...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Phil Hoppes in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
While I would agree that Tim clearly does not have the same focus that Steve had I think it is too soon to tell who's management style succeeds. I worked with Apple a number of years ago as a supply vendor when Steve was there and while I do respect...

6 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "ummm...it's an FCPX forum, right?" Ah, and so much more! The thread itself is a broader inquiry into what Laurie should consider add her next step. This is the most appropriate forum to ask that question. Me, I think Steve's point is well taken. Some vigorous opinions to...

6 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "ummm...it's an FCPX forum, right? " ....or not :)...

6 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "Agreed, and a good reason for "the forum name change"! :-) " Perhaps we could start a new forum to discuss the name change "FCPX or Not - or not!"...

6 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "Perhaps we could start a new forum to discuss the name change "FCPX or Not - or not!"" I feel like we are heading towards a Monty Python skit....

6 months ago   read more
Re: OT: Fusion Studio
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Honestly, I think that Fusion's learning curve will be a turnoff for a lot of people accustomed to the intuitiveness of FCP X and the high-floor/low-ceiling of Motion. One of the comments we see over and over here (which I will attempt to paraphrase here without comment) is that Apple...

5 months ago   read more
Re: OT: Fusion Studio
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Eric Santiago] "To me, FCPX as the an editorial tool requires it to be simple. But when it comes to intricate compositing and grading, then apps such as Fusion and Resolve are welcome in my workflow since Ive had the experience with both and all the other head hurting apps...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by Bob Woodhead in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Why is it that this forum (and techniques) seem to be far more active than the others? Could it be that we're done editing sooner, and thus have more time to post?...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bob Woodhead] "Could it be that we're done editing sooner, and thus have more time to post?" Or that your underemployed and have more time to post? Herb Sevush Zebra Productions --------------------------- nothin' attached to nothin' "Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by David Mathis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Surely, you must be kidding? I thought it was civilized in here, no pitch forks or flaming torch. By the way did not call you Shirley! ;-) I had to throw an Airplane reference in there....

5 months ago   read more
Re: 3.5 year old blog post still relevant
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] "Introduce an Apple Cinema Camera with FCP X and Motion for free? ;-)" Where would the market go from there? BMD would have to slash their prices and pay you cash money to download Resolve/Fusion, just to stay competitive. Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live...

5 months ago   read more
Tracks are Indispensable.
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I take it all back. Tracks are great! I love them. ------------------------------------------------------------- ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~ ~"It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools."~ ~"The function you just attempted is not yet implemented"~...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Tracks are annoying as hell...
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Good grief, how DID we all cope before FCPX came along!...

5 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX offers what advantages over Premiere?
by tony west in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This is a good thread to show how many things Prp has copied from X A tip of the hat should go to X for that for starters. The connected clip structure of the X TL lets me move huge chunks of the story without even selecting them. In a...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Enlighten me on why Motion is better than After Effects or not
by Shawn Miller in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I can't speak to Motion's strengths or weaknesses. But here's why I think AE rules the roost as a hybrid motion graphics/VFX/finishing tool. The AE community - Ae has a deep bench of smart, dedicated users who have built a knowledge base and a culture which makes it easy for...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Dynamic Trimming in X
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Richard Herd] "But I need to see the tail and the head."...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Enlighten me on why Motion is better than After Effects or not
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Herb Sevush] "To me Motion is an "editors" tool and AE is an "EFX/Compositors" tool." There's a lot to this statement. I've referred to Motion countless times here as offering a high floor and a low ceiling, whereas Ae has a low floor and a high ceiling. I think Herb...

5 months ago   read more
Re: The Next FCPX Update
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Chris Frantz] "This will be one of the features that people will defend Apple not implementing until they do, and then championing it soon afterwards. " See also: A compressed proprietary codec that offers workflow advantages, especially over camera codecs. "Avid DNxHD? Makes no sense!" Then four years later, "PRORES...

5 months ago   read more
Re: The Next FCPX Update
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "And i believe the handwriting is on the wall for that way of "scarcity thinking" of digital assets." I keep trying to pass this off as Soyka's Law: "Expectations rise at the same rate as capabilities." Maybe someday it will catch on! Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist...

5 months ago   read more
FCP X media tracking
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
In case people haven't encountered it yet, FCP X (10.1 and later) is extraordinarily good about keeping track of external media. If you change externally-linked media file locations at the Finder level - including moving files to other folders or renaming host folders - FCP X is able to track...

5 months ago   read more
iBook on the FOCUS FCP X workflow.
by Bill Davis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
On another thread someone asked me if were any articles on the FCP X workflow 1st AE Mike Matzdorff used for the about to be released Will Smith movie FOCUS that I could link for them. I emailed Mike yesterday and got a response indicating that the iBook will be...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Apple Photos
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
it has excellent sliders that provide group control over multiple adjustment parameters, with the ability to drill down and fine tune. It's not hard to imagine certain similar assistance in X with group detection. detecting primary and b-roll and that. Could prove very handy. professional editing is likely in safe...

5 months ago   read more
6hrs into first major FCPX project
by Tom Sefton in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Got some training from Noah and Sam at FCPworks before embarking on a 10 week 4K 3D project in FCPX. I'd previously tried to make the workflow split between Adobe and Resolve for delivery. Just started editing 1 days worth of footage, which includes 2 streams of 4K red footage...

5 months ago   read more
Re: 6hrs into first major FCPX project
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Less Jaded. That used to be my radio name....

5 months ago   read more
Re: Looks brilliant
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I guess I shouldn't focus on the irony that a video about the art of editing contains no editing whatsoever, but is instead a lovely piece of graphic and audio design. Herb Sevush Zebra Productions --------------------------- nothin' attached to nothin' "Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Serious X Editors needed in LA.
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "What are the serious operations in LA? " FCPWORKS is...apparently. And they, according to Sam, are getting requests from people for broadcast/film professionals that use FCX. But so far that's the only place I've seen looking. Not to say that I haven't seen people looking for FCX editors,...

5 months ago   read more
Re: You wanted Color Wheels?
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I get what you are saying about Resolve, but I think it's an unfair and unrealistic comparison. Most editors, let alone FCP X editors, have no interest in using Resolve, nor have much of a clue as to how to use it once they open it up. The same was...

4 months ago   read more
Re: You wanted Color Wheels?
by Brett Sherman in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "Most editors, let alone FCP X editors, have no interest in using Resolve, nor have much of a clue as to how to use it once they open it up." Sure there are those who wouldn't have a clue as to how to use it. There are others...

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Re: In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
A nice article, but a HUGE puff piece. For all the discussion about a faster edit, the editing took 11 months. While that's not uncommon for a studio feature - and is likely due to all sort of things, but not due to the choice of editing systems - it...

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Re: In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This was not really an observation about FCP X so much as an observation about this project. The directors didn't feel that an experienced feature film editor would have anything useful to offer. That's a bit surprising. Equally they didn't feel that an experienced titles designer could bring anything of...

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Re: How are you using metadata?
by Mark Raudonis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bret Williams] "Just found it funny that my wife did it as old school as possible and was done editing before I was done logging!" Bret, You just made a very important observation: "Logging metadata" is NOT editing! I work with a lot of young assistant editors that seem OVERLY...

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Re: Apple Watch
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
FOR THE RECORD, I said repeatedly that this is a real product, with a real audience, and Apple has been missing out on its share of a $20 billion market -- before Apple gets in and makes it a much bigger market. People have been buying these for YEARS (they...

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Re: Great FCPX Event today in Hollywood!
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Arri has been in the motion picture camera business since the early 1900s. If that doesn't qualify as old guard, I don't know what would. ;)" For film cameras, obviously, but hey, Apple has been around since 1976. In tech years, that's ancient. Certainly longer than Adobe, Avid,...

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Re: Return of the Duck!
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[edit] - wes plate is a king - this just set me off on a tangent - I'll just point this out off a recent job because I hadn't fully internalised it (at all): you can now select a clip in the premiere pro timeline and paste it directly into...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Return of the Duck!
by James Culbertson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Maybe they can do an FCPX to Motion and vice-versa too. ;-)...

4 months ago   read more
OT: Documentary clip about new MacBook
by Bret Williams in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Slightly off topic but I know everyone was amazed at the new MacBook. There's a very informative video about the backstory behind the design featuring one of the head engineers. It's a good watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc...

4 months ago   read more
Re: First time I have seen this...
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Daniel Frome] "AKA color board chooser. " Hilarious!. :-/ I see this all the time, by the way. "No real FCP X jobs!" "Here's one!" "lol! it's for X! It can't be real. Here. let me list some stupid reasons why it's not!" "Nobody in this business uses X!" "Here's...

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OT: 1 Billion Viewers, No Profits
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Recently the Wall Street Journal ran an article called about YT's struggles to monetize its content. Basically, YT has massive amounts overhead and can't facilitate a more advertiser friendly experience. YouTube: 1 Billion Viewers, No Profit "The results reflect YouTube’s struggles to expand its core audience beyond teens and tweens....

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Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "I think you're being a extremely unfair and insulting here. I've spoken with the folks involved and that's not the impression I got. I think Jan very definitely handled the creative edit in the same sense as any other film editor. While the initial desire might have been...

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Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] " It's my contention that the media workflow (IMHO as much or more so than FCP X) contributed to the speed and fluidity of the post process on this film." Perhaps, but that's very different than the claims presented in the videos, which are riddled with factual errors...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "The message, to me, isn't You no longer need a full time Editor. The message is, You no longer need to be a full time Editor to effectively wrap your head around an NLE." YOU get that message. But there are many out there that feel that the...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Because the fundamental idea of cutting is to compress information flow, usually so that we can efficiently pack more concepts into a fixed period of time." Hi Bill, Thanks for chiming in. But I'm afraid I just can't buy the notion that "compressing the information flow" is "the...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Mathieu Ghekiere in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Spielberg has talked about it a lot. He said he likes to make scenes where in a way, the audience does their 'own' cutting. I don't agree with it completely, because his staging is as such that he really draws your attention to stuff. If you haven't seen this already,...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by David Lawrence in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "In today's VFX heavy movies, I feel like sometimes the editing done is practical to save on VFX costs. The Avengers, which I found to be a really entertaining movie, had some odd and quick cuts because I think if the shots were longer, or more grand, the...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[tony west] "We don't see in cuts in real life, we see continuously." While I like long continuous takes where appropriate, I have to disagree with this statement. I'm not arguing that the scene you talked about in TD wasn't fabulous, I just don't think it was fabulous because it...

3 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX Database to get even better
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
'....it could achieve 54 billion writes per hour at a cost-per-write of 3 nanodollars. " And that, my friends, is editing a nutshell....

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Simon is essentially arguing that a tool like X is a reflection of a trend where editing is becoming infected by a "too much cutting" and that's somehow bad for content creation. " [Bill Davis] "I make these points a lot. BECAUSE I feel they're both relevant AND...

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Re: FCPX Database to get even better
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "'....it could achieve 54 billion writes per hour at a cost-per-write of 3 nanodollars. "" And that, my friends, is editing a nutshell. 3 nanodollars... sounds like compensation from a CraigsList ad....

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Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
And this is one reason we are seeing an uptick in software subscriptions. When both companies (like Apple, BM, etc.,) and users devalue software what forms of recourse do software companies have?...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "That's a bit of a leap!" Why do you say that? If software prices get driven down below the point of sustainability then software makers have to look to alternate business models to generate revenue. That pretty much means going ad supported, freemium and/or subscription. For example, Google...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Lawrence] "True. And the way to get people to upgrade regularly is to offer upgrades that are worth upgrading to. Customers will pay for innovation and value." It's part of my point that customers aren't willing to pay what it costs to deliver innovation and value, because the value...

3 months ago   read more
Re: FCP 7 Editors...need not apply!
by Ryan Holmes in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andy Field] "(FCP7 or Premier exclusive editors need not apply)" This type of language in a job posting always strikes me as strange. I know they are a FCP X facility, and the candidate that would be most comfortable fastest is an editor who knows and uses X already...I get...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I'm eventually going to have to go back up the thread to reply to many of the GREAT points up there, but for now, I have a couple of observations. First, I think Simon is absolutely correct. The ease of nonlinear editing enables laziness of a sort that was previously...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[James Culbertson] "The ultimate master of the frame was Andrei Tarkovsky." Absolutely agreed. The Russians got an awful lot of things right. They believed there was a political imperative to get everything right, to which *I* would add that's a moral and spiritual imperative...even if they wouldn't. I'd include a...

3 months ago   read more
Software criticism
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Reading these last few "film school" threads on theory and criticism has made me realize that a lot of what we do here is software criticism: trying to figure out the meaning and message of each new release, trying to fit each new release into our understanding of the body...

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Re: Software criticism
by Michael Phillips in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I can only speak to my experiences as the product designer at Avid from 1990 through ~2002'ish (when my role changed). At the time, there were two product designers as they were called. It was important that these roles were individuals who were editors, and come with production experience. My...

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Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by David Cherniack in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] " Let's make it possible for news producers or political spots to completely eliminate context as a pesky barrier. Make them say whatever works best for you. Ugh." I do believe that's possible to do with existing technology. Morph Cuts will only make it possible to do more...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by David Cherniack in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "Problem is that it's in Premiere..." I'm sure there'll be a 30 day free trial when they release it so the only obstacle would be ideological and surely no-one here is an NLE idealogue.... David http://AllinOneFilms.com...

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Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Among the other bits that are out there talking about new features/workflows is this 30 minute video video It tries to hit all of the big points with some detail in a reasonable amount of time. Something else to look at. I'll be in Vegas until end of next week...

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Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Morph Cut is a lot like Avid's FluidMorph, except a lot better. But a process that has been used for years. This is essentially the same as the technique T.Payton posted about how to do a similar process in X. Except his was not a one-effect solution. I'm surprised you...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "the color corrector is the nicest thing, IMHO" I really like their approach with color: make it fast, make it familiar, and layer complexity to suit different needs of different users. If you've used Lightroom, you already know a lot of Lumetri Color in Premiere, and you can...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Premier ePro new version reveal
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "it really isn't a matter of deceiving." Or to put it another way, ALL cuts are a matter of deceiving. :-)...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Update to FCPX
by David Roth Weiss in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Apple version of update in this case is their attempt to rewrite history by trying to erase all memories of their last foray to NAB four years ago....

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Re: Update to FCPX
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Roth Weiss] " trying to erase all memories of their last foray to NAB" But they couldn't dare right? That FCPX reveal stands as a historical software bombsite crater for the ages. Invested partners and production companies the world over were left picking out bits of apple shrapnel for...

3 months ago   read more
Re: One of a thousand posts with some 10.2 info....
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "3D type, with a new environment and materials system." Still. How is it that the major top line feature of a full dot release is a livetype style crazy 3D type renderer? If they ever did any market research, does anyone think that a mad 3D type engine...

3 months ago   read more
Re: One of a thousand posts with some 10.2 info....
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Aindreas Gallagher] "How is it that the major top line feature of a full dot release is a livetype style crazy 3D type renderer?" Indeed. What kind of sad has-been still thinks that 3D text is the cool happening thing? Or are Apple finally announcing that the done-to-death flat aesthetic...

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Apple Watch: Biggest Launch in Company History
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Ima have to start by telling you "I told you," because I'm just that way, and because I DID. Look it up. I said that it was gonna be huge for Apple, because it's already huge for other people -- and anything huge for someone else probably gonna get huger...

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Re: Apple Watch: Biggest Launch in Company History
by David Cherniack in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Great news for lovers of self-indulgence. Sad news for lovers of humanity. David http://AllinOneFilms.com...

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Re: Apple Watch: Biggest Launch in Company History
by tony west in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
The Watch looks really nice, but I still think it's a little odd that Apple is pushing bigger screens for their phones because, I guess folks want bigger screens, and at the same time pushing this tiny screen watch. Why is this little screen on your wrist OK? : )...

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Re: The pre-nab editor's lounge panel on the state of editing.
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Just to be clear, there was almost no discussion of FCP X, just before everyone gets their knickers in a wad. They had a show of hands of users in attendance, and noted a marked increase in PPro over last year and no increase in FCP X. In the two...

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Re: The pre-nab editor's lounge panel on the state of editing.
by Mark Raudonis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Aindreas, I can't speak for my colleagues on the panel that night, but I believe that there will NOT be ONE NLE to rule them all. Rather, I see a segmented market future with MANY different NLE's tuned to a particular kind of workflow or project. Here on the COW,...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Long time editor's frustration with FCPX
by Douglas K. Dempsey in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
MY own single biggest interface complaint is the buffoonishly-named terminology. I've been told, "who cares what they call things, as long as it works" but it is in this area that I am made to feel silly. I STILL find it nearly impossible to converse with a newcomer about FCPX...

3 months ago   read more
Re: The pre-nab editor's lounge panel on the state of editing.
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "What does everyone make of the fact that last year, the vast majority of the building branding at NAB was Adobe. This year that was gone and it was largely BlackMagic... Knowing advertising a bit, it might all be just a specific campaign end... maybe BMD just came...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Long time editor's frustration with FCPX
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Strangely enough I don't really care if the interface looks like it's for beginners, or what they call the elements as long as it functions the way I want it to. I'd rather the "toy" interface of FCPX than the never changing 1980's Avid interface!...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Long time editor's frustration with FCPX
by Craig Seeman in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Berez] "- The cartoonish icons for the effects and transitions." Yet this is one of the things I like about the interface. No doubt a Ubillos thing going back to his work on Premiere. I hate having to decipher cryptic and often conflicting names of FX and Transitions from...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Long time editor's frustration with FCPX
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Solved it!...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Long time editor's frustration with FCPX
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "The one with the most tabs and windows wins? Well, I don't see it that way. At least certainly not in the context of the FCP X interface. Though I would move the scopes out of the canvas window, as I've said before, but that's pretty much...

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Re: It is patently obvious...
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I had to. :-) Title!! ------------------------------------------------------------- ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~ ~"It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools."~ ~"The function you just attempted is not yet implemented"~...

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Re: It is patently obvious...
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Well then I guess the next time your cutting a 3D Imax fantasy adventure story on your FCPX kit the 3D titles will come in handy. Herb Sevush Zebra Productions --------------------------- nothin' attached to nothin' "Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf...

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Re: It is patently obvious...
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I'm glad you took the time to do this Charlie, as trailers were the first thing that came to mind when everyone was bashing 3D text, and I think X does well in trailers/promos right now. Is this an example of Apple building tools as a direct response to their...

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Re: It is patently obvious...
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "Also, I squeal like a young boy when I see the Star Wars trailers." 3D type, much like the Force, may be used for good or evil. Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link] Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting @keenlive [twitter] |...

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Re: The FCP X "tell"
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Dennis Radeke] "Avid went PC only for a time based in part on what Apple was doing (going from 6 to 3 slot Macs and I believe system 9 to the first OS X)." I know that I'm fighting 15 or 18 years of collected false memories here, but, as...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Anyone else catch a cold at NAB?
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
And now you brought it back with you. You know, this is how the zombie apocalypse starts.... Shane Little Frog Post Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Randy Ubillos retires from Apple
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
OTOH, Randy is due his retirement. There are few folks who can claim to have developed three different NLEs from scratch (Premiere, KeyGrip/FCP, iMovie/FCP X). - Oliver Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC Orlando, FL www.oliverpeters.com...

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Re: Randy Ubillos retires from Apple
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "OTOH, Randy is due his retirement. There are few folks who can claim to have developed three different NLEs from scratch (Premiere, KeyGrip/FCP, iMovie/FCP X)." Agreed. Whether you like X or not, Randy deserves a huge round of applause for an amazing career. The dude has more than...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Randy Ubillos retires from Apple
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Randy has certainly done his time in this industry, and left a legacy that will endure maybe longer than any other single designer/developer. Any one of his accomplishments would be enough to put him in the running, especially Premiere, which is ground zero for desktop video imo, but even if...

2 months ago   read more
Re: "Simplifying the interface is not the same as giving you usable time code metres."
by Mark Dobson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
What are you trying to say Aindreas? You have severely miss quoted Larry Jordans blog to support your 'lets knock Apple again' post. In fact you have actually put words in Larry mouth! Now like him or loath him one thing you can say for Larry is that he is...

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Re: Adobe bids for The Foundry
by Shawn Miller in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] " I was hoping AJA would acquire The Foundry not Adobe. I am concerned over this move as well. At least Fusion won't drain your wallet completely empty. Adobe should consider making hardware then perhaps the rental only fiasco would stop or at least slow down. My two...

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Re: Adobe bids for The Foundry
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Blackmagic makes this sort of thing look easy. And hey, Nuke doesn't look much different than Fusion, right? You click it, it opens, right? No big deal. The difference is that this sale is proposed in the $200-300 million range, with nearly 400 employees. Compare AJA for example, with only...

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Re: Adobe bids for The Foundry
by David Roth Weiss in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Nice analysis Tim! What strikes me about the extremely high valuation the Carlisle Group is placing on Nuke is that they are not only up against Blackmagic, they are up against BM's model of giving away the software either for free, or for close to free. For example, Resolve Lite...

2 months ago   read more
Re: andy Ubillos retires from Apple
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "I can't remember the last time I saw a broadcast delivery spec that wanted me to include bars and tone." For spots your correct, for program delivery, not so much. For PBS bars and tone are still part of the program delivery specs, even with digital (proRes) delivery....

2 months ago   read more
Re: The Mother of All NLE Demos
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Claude Lyneis] "Like stepping into a time machine." I started on a 2 machine U-Matic suite!...

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Re: The Mother of All NLE Demos
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "and to a one, those who've actually learned to use X at a truly professional level DO NOT want to switch back. At all! And to a one they cite that it's HARDER to do their work without the toolset X uniquely enables and/or provides. " As someone...

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Re: The Mother of All NLE Demos
by David Lawrence in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Charlie Austin] "Now I know why you're so adamant about tracks... you invented them! lol Very cool David." Charlie - Thanks! I do think we invented something genuinely new, but it wasn't tracks. ;) [Michael Gissing] "Great to see this David. I just wanted to know how much the Fairlight...

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Re: The Mother of All NLE Demos
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "When someone posts that "X is just like all the other NLEs" no better or worse, just different. It strikes me as patently FALSE. " I guess it depends on how you read that statement. I read it as X can get the job done, just like other...

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Speaking of History...
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Inspired by Davids great post below, I hunted down some info about the DAW I used to use when I started my former mixing career. I present it here to illustrate how things have changed. The Otari ProDisc 464 . A nice, 8 track rig started at $56,000. and filled...

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Re: Raising 5.4M, Reading Rainbow wants a full-time FCPX editor for 25K/year
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Drat. I was going to send them this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA Shane Little Frog Post Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def...

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Re: The Mother of All NLE Demos - Methuselah Lives
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Dave you king! very late to this - are you basically the first person ever in history to slap down on the spacebar for a marker for timing? I think you are you know. Spatial organisation FTW. how many potential stakeholders at the time saw this? did their brains explode?...

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Re: could we please just take a moment here.
by Gary Huff in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Aindreas Gallagher] "[Aindreas Gallagher] (it occured to me watching him slap the space bar) "are you basically the first person ever in history to slap down on the spacebar for a marker for timing? I think you are you know." " One small keypress for man, one giant leap for...

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Re: Requesting a major upgrade to the cow.
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[John Davidson] "What forum, if not this one, would be better served by a good old fashioned bird?" Ask and, um... you want me to email you this one as well for the collection? lol The Golden Bird ------------------------------------------------------------- ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~ ~"It is a poor craftsman...

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Re: could we please just take a moment here.
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
hey no fair - no pub involved - was just really late to reading that whole thread. i mean you've got to commemorate him requesting that feature. that's crazy. http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics...

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Re: could we please just take a moment here.
by David Roth Weiss in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Hold on there just a minute, while David L. doesn't toot his own horn, this was not the first time his membership on the Lucas/Apple NLE development team has been mentioned here. Take a peek at the link below where I first intro'd David and his story to the FCP...

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Re: 3D apparently isn't hurting plugin makers...
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
come on. it's circus carny stuff. Apple put their back into a fifteen year old 3D text sell. Where are the keyframing tools? Why is X still as stupid as it is for keyframing? what's more important for title typography? A back 3D bevel, or the ability to control its...

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The Heading for this forum Needs to change...
by Dean Neal in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Sometimes I think this forum should be recalled "FCPX - The Opportunity for Adobe to Exploit"... Surely its time to simply just call it - Apple FCPX? Or can we counter-create: Premiere Pro - FCP7 re-badged or not? Creative Cloud - Subscription Services suck or not: The Debate ;-) PPro...

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Re: The Heading for this forum Needs to change...
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Dean Neal] "Creative Cloud - Subscription Services suck or not: The Debate" Here ya go . re: this forum's name, see here (2013), here (2014), and here (2015) to catch up with the, ahem, debate. See also every thread here that has a debate in it. The debate-oriented threads are...

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Re: The Heading for this forum Needs to change...
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
While I recuse "Dennis - Adobe Guy" on the grounds that I'm with a vendor, I'll speak as a member of the community and make just a couple of quick points. 1 - The forum title, "FCPX debate or not" never makes the statement that FCPX is a toy. It...

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Re: The Heading for this forum Needs to change...
by Mark Raudonis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
"empty milk bottle".... how about a "cow pie"?...

2 months ago   read more
Re: The Heading for this forum Needs to change...
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "Do you miss FCP7? When's the last time you used it?" It's the Creative Cloud talking. Once Aindreas gave in and accepted Adobe's sweet, sweet nectar he became a changed man. A somehow slightly more crazy, slightly more insane version of his former self. ;)...

2 months ago   read more
Are NLEs like bicycles?
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This one is for you, Bill. Step 1. Watch this 8 minute video about learning how to ride bike where the handlebar movement has been reversed (left turns you right, right turns you left). http://dailyliked.net/backwards-brain-bicycle/ Step 2. Debate (what else?) Seeing this video made me think of Bill (and others,...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Are NLEs like bicycles?
by Mark Raudonis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Andrew, What a great video! Thanks for sharing. This video has to be the absolute best explanation of why we've all been arguing about FCP-X since it's debut years ago. The "backwards steering" bicycle experiment proves that when we're hardwired to perform something it's VERY difficult to change that. I'd...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Are NLEs like bicycles?
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Are we not all familiar with Betteridge's law of headlines?" No! (Ha.) Of course NLEs are not like bicycles. They're like cars. Or hammers. Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link] Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting @keenlive [twitter] | RenderBreak [blog] |...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Problem importing to FCP X from camera...
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
:-D D-:...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Are NLEs like bicycles?
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Nobody says that crap about Premiere or AVID or Vegas for heavens sake. " Wow, seriously? Did you just come back from drinking with Aindreas? No other NLE gets crapped on? Really? Every NLE gets crapped on which is why I find the victim mentality by some X...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Are NLEs like bicycles?
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Dennis Radeke] "I think FCP8 would have been a great Star Trek "alternate reality" universe." But who gets to wear the goatees and the sashes? ;) [Dennis Radeke] ". I feel we would have gotten there anyway even if Apple had done FCP8, but it is a great "what if"...

1 month ago   read more
Re: 10.2 update
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
It is quite obvious, Tom, that this software is not made for professional use. FCPX represents the cauterization of over a century of visual communication practices. Apple has taken it upon themselves to problem solve tasks that are clearly quite undeserving of the effort. For now, and for ever more,...

1 month ago   read more
Re: 10.2 update
by Mark Suszko in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Garchow: 10/10...

1 month ago   read more
Re: 10.2 update
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I've been doing a green screen project by starting the rough draft in FCPX and using Hawaiki Keyer. I can stack 3 or 4 4k streams with a rough key, and add dissolves and have this playback in good enough quality in FCPX to understand the edit, and make creative...

1 month ago   read more
Re: 10.2 update
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "FCPX represents the cauterization of over a century of visual communication practices. Apple has taken it upon themselves to problem solve tasks that are clearly quite undeserving of the effort. " Well done there Jeremy. Admitting there is a problem is the first step in beginning to move...

1 month ago   read more
still driving me nuts
by James Ewart in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I can get over most of it but ... We come back to this time and time again. Calling a timeline a project is so hopelessly confusing and if anything it becomes more annoying as time goes on. Language is language. To start calling carrots bananas just for the sake...

1 month ago   read more
Re: still driving me nuts
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Douglas K. Dempsey] "I have adjusted to "Library-Events-Projects" but to a client or friend I can only apologize." and [James Ewart] "I'm sure people will think "why is he still banging on about that?" .... because I have to call it a 'project timeline' to be certain I am communicating...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Media 100 is making a Come back!
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Looking at that interface brings back so many memories:...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Media 100 is making a Come back!
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "I have to confess I don't understand the current positioning of Media 100. What niche in the market do you think they hope to occupy?" One that wants Boris Red for $99? ;)...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Media 100 is making a Come back!
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Okay, now THIS is a thread. LOL As my business evolved in the 90s, I built it around Media 100, taking out a second mortgage on my house to do so. And my first job after my life as a Media 100 editor was working for Boris as his Director...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Boy will this be a debate starter...
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Stu has a great way of taking something that could be complex and explaining it in a very clear, concise way. A hallway with doors is certainly a better than any analogy we've been able to come up with. ;) One of my favorite applicable quotes is from Alan Kay,...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Boy will this be a debate starter...
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "And rember when I use metaphors, I've learned that I will have to spend hours defending them. (Yes, likely because they are lame.) but it's still a hassle - : )" Metaphors are a lot like cars, Bill... ;)...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: China? Yeah, China for gods sake.
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
"Then, one day it just clicked. I loved the lack of rules. Favouriting is the best thing on the planet! I could bash out a slick edit at least twice as fast." yep, that's what I keep hearing. Sounds stunning. I do love a 2X slick edit. They're aren't many...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: OTish: Adobe Release
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Aindreas Gallagher] "Also I do feel Jeremy Garchow is being super duper full on churlish about everything he sees with it" Well, Andy "Lambast the Rentiers of Adobe" Gallagher, Jeremy "The Churlish Beauty" Garchow is mostly arguing about one feature of one app( the number one requested feature, mind you)...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: OTish: Adobe Release
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "Because the majority of the After Effects team has been working for over a year to deliver v13.5, and Jeremy "Mckayla" Garchow is unimpressed. " That was good, but I see myself more like this:...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: OT: CineForm now a SMPTE standard
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I've been a big CineForm fan for a while now, using it daily for years. Seeing it ratified as a standard is very gratifying. (rant on) Sadly, I don't have a high degree of confidence that CineForm will unseat ProRes. Without starting a discussion with David of whether the project...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: OT: CineForm now a SMPTE standard
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Mathieu Ghekiere] "This is completely untrue. Prores was only introduced with Final Cut Studio 2 (FCP 6!!). You could before and after, work with DV, HDV, XDCAM, ... Prores was one of the first good alternatives to having a very high quality HD codec, not too taxing, without the rates...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: OT: CineForm now a SMPTE standard
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "Friends don't let friends master to ProRes." I would be giddy with joy if DNx or Cineform became an acceptable deliverable for PBS, but at the moment it's still ProRes all the way. Which chains me to the Mac platform and OSX, exactly the way Apple envisioned. Were...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: New FCPX user, what's all the hate about?
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Noah Kadner] "I'm amused by the resistance to major change from folks who make major changes as their profession." I know that we have a reputation for that, especially outside the COW -- but based almost entirely on the first year+, when the specific things criticized where in fact exactly...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Great Article. FCP X Broadcast Network Editorial Workflow
by Bob Zelin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
what is not made clear in this article, is that NONE of this would have happened without the assistance of Ronny Courtens, who is a workflow expert in FCP-X. I am still amazed that all of these people are working without issue. This is all due to Ronny's guidance and...

6 days ago   read more
Re: Great Article. FCP X Broadcast Network Editorial Workflow
by Neil Goodman in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Open, bullpen style setups are great for some things, but editing is not one of them, IMO. Metronome has both a bullpen and many editing suites so everyone gets the work area that suits them best. My major complaint against bullpens is that they require headphones (which damage...

6 days ago   read more
Re: Great Article. FCP X Broadcast Network Editorial Workflow
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Neil Goodman] "Actually meant to say "My diva ass needs a room! " My diva ass already has a room, but definitely NEEDS ROOM. Already working on the cross-stitch embroidery "My Diva Ass Needs Room" pillow for the sofa....

4 days ago   read more
Re: RGB coordinates of "black" in Sony Vegas
by John Rofrano in the Sony Vegas Forum
[Matt Kushner] "When I import an image with a black background into Vegas (onto a black background in Vegas), the black color doesn't blend in with the background black in Vegas---it appears a "light shade" of black. " That's because the Black in Vegas is Computer RGB (0,0,0) which is...

3 years ago   read more
Re: Graphic Card Benchmark for Sony Vegas Pro 13 or 12 ?
by Dave Haynie in the Sony Vegas Forum
Ok.. there are a couple of things at work here. You probably won't like any of them. 1) It's CUDA, not KUDA. Stands for Compute Unified Device Architecture. If you're German, I'll give you a pass on this one. But nVidia calls it CUDA. Use the right name so you...

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