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Re: Text along 3D path in AE CS3
by Brian Maffitt in the Adobe After Effects Forum
An interesting puzzle, but you can pull it off. You'll need to take advantage of text on a path, plus the ability to make a layer rotate in 3d space, plus the ability make individual letters rotate in 3D space. As an example, type some text, add a circular mask...

6 years ago   read more
Re: Can't get GeForce GTX 560 Ti card CUDA to work with new Premiere Pro CC 2014 version
by Sean Kendall in the Adobe Premiere Pro Forum
Okay, I figured it out. I installed the latest graphics driver and then opened the NVIDIA control panel. In there I selected "Manage 3D settings" and went to the "program settings" tab. I selected Adobe Premiere (adobe premiere pro.exe) from the list and under the "CUDA - GPUs" feature, I...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Graphics problem after Yosemite upgrade
by Gregory David in the Adobe Premiere Pro Forum
These issues have been driving me crazy. Won't bore with all the crap and just cut to the chase. I removed the CUDA driver: Cuda com.nvidia.cuda.launcher.plist (LaunchDaemons) and com.nvidia.CUDASoftwareUpdate (LaunchAgents) AND.. ISSUES GONE - both dropping of video, which was the worst one and all the graphics garbage. I have...

4 months ago   read more
NVIDIA Card with Yosemite and Premiere causing major graphics failure
by Chip Burns in the Adobe Premiere Pro Forum
For the past few months I have been experiencing extreme graphics failures, primarily when running Adobe Premiere Pro CC 14. This photo is the start of what I'm talking about: The video display begins to distort and carry over into other applications and OS windows throughout the machine. Eventually the...

3 months ago   read more
Article: Sexism in Post: Sometimes It's What You Think, Sometimes Not
by Kylee Wall in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Adobe After Effects Sexism in Post: Sometimes It's What You Think, Sometimes Not Sexism in video production is making work environments hostile and keeping women away, but the most damaging sexist actions aren't what you think. Editorial, Feature, People / Interview 11/06/2014 Author: Kylee Wall...

5 months ago   read more
Article: Don't Fight the Magnetic Timeline!
by Charlie Austin in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Apple FCPX Techniques Don't Fight the Magnetic Timeline! One of the biggest issues people coming from other NLE's still seem to have with FCP X is how the Timeline works. Magnetism! No Tracks! Weird Snorkel Things! Storylines?! It's Crazytown! If you fall into this category, we have two suggestions for...

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Re: Article: Don't Fight the Magnetic Timeline!
by Andy Field in the COW - Tutorials Forum
excellent well documented article.....still seems like a lot of pretzle contortions to do what you're used to..but glad it's working for you and others. Andy Field FieldVision Productions N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852...

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Re: Open Letter to Companies Exhibiting at the NAB Show
by Bob Zelin in the COW - Tutorials Forum
ok - I read the entire article now. Every word and every image that Kylee posted. I still don't agree with the article. Maybe because I look at myself. No one hands me my opportunities. No one said (certainly at the beginning) - "hey Bob, you are a white guy,...

3 weeks ago   read more
@Cris Daniel
by Kylee Wall in the COW - Tutorials Forum
Would you mind citing specifically where I make broad assumptions about how selfish, rotten and stupid men are? Also where I assert that men are a hybrid of Archie Bunker and Larry Flint? Or ascribe nefarious motives to all white men? Because my point is (and has been since my...

2 weeks ago   read more
Video: Bruce Branit's World Builder short film in 720p
by Creative COW in the COW - Videos Forum
Bruce Branit's World Builder short film in 720p Bruce Branit's World Builder short film in 720p. watch short film...

4 years ago   read more
Video: Color Grading Reel - Benoit Cote - 2014
by Benoit Cote in the COW - Videos Forum
Color Grading Reel - Benoit Cote - 2014 2014 color grading reel. Edit by Emeline Declerck Music by Jack White - High Ball Stepper cote-b.com watch demo reel...

10 months ago   read more
Video: Into the Storm VFX Breakdowns
by Creative COW in the COW - Videos Forum
Into the Storm VFX Breakdowns Method Studios created the storm and its aftermath for "Into the Storm; here are the breakdowns. watch video...

8 months ago   read more
Video: Maze Runner VFX Breakdown
by Creative COW in the COW - Videos Forum
Maze Runner VFX Breakdown Method's team of 170 worked for 10 months to create 150 character shots and 380 environment shots for The Maze Runner. Environments have been one of Method's long suits, but character animation is new. To build the company's strength in that area, they added Erik de...

6 months ago   read more
Video: Color Grading Breakdown
by Roman Zinaenkov in the COW - Videos Forum
Color Grading Breakdown Software: Davinci Resolve 11 All videos are taken from open sources watch demo reel...

4 months ago   read more
Video: Show Reel
by Jimmy Sahlin in the COW - Videos Forum
Show Reel A summary of my work so far, containing both modeling, visual effects and animations. watch demo reel...

4 months ago   read more
Video: Through African Eyes
by Anthony Berube in the COW - Videos Forum
Through African Eyes www.ThroughAfricanEyes.net or https://vimeo.com/ondemand/30573 Discover the Africa you do NOT see on CNN. Follow Dennis Hayes, former interim CEO and President of the NAACP as he discovers his ancestral homeland. Travel back in time to the slave trade and the music and dance of Africa. Let the people...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Academy of Art University student's CS6 licenses canceled
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Sarah Ryan, the AAU student leading efforts to make Adobe return deactivated CS6 perpetual licenses posted this message to Facebook this morning outlining the facts of the AAU student case. Assuming this is documented and true, they're pretty damning of both AAU and Adobe. An announcement is expected later this...

6 months ago   read more
Adobe: All your e-books are belong to us
by Herbert van der wegen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
You would think Adobe would have learned its lesson after the encryption blunder they made during the stolen Adobe ID database - unfortunately it seems they have not. Worse, they thought it was a great idea to invade the privacy of every e-book customer: http://the-digital-reader.com/2014/10/06/adobe-spying-users-collecting-data-ebook-libraries/ 1) invading your device/machine by...

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Re: CC Subscription increase
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I guess the phrase to use here is "caveat emptor"... or "caveat renter" in your case. The rent just went up. You can move elsewhere or you can pay it. Nice how Adobe made that perfectly clear about the introductory offer, isn't it? Not that Adobe is any different from...

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Re: CC Subscription increase
by Andy Field in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
They actually do make it clear about introductory first year offer....it's not a surprise Andy Field FieldVision Productions N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852...

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Re: CC Subscription increase
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andy Field] "and the cost (if you upgrade every year) is virtually the same as upgrading every year..on a monthly basis....this is a tool we use every day (like our phone carrier plan...or internet provider...they don't sell to us to own the plan or the equipment) With all the upgrades...

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Re: CC Subscription increase
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Lawrence] "Glad it works for you, but the big problem many of us have with CC is still not about money." I like to have choice and control. I would not mind subscribing if there was some buyout option. I am glad to see Adobe making significant and meaningful...

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Re: CC Subscription increase
by Florian Sepp in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
If you purchase CS you still can sell it in the end. with cc you are left alone with nothing. (no money, no access). I woukd love to have the coice. I most propably would rent once in a while ore maybe even for me (with off ramp) but as...

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More EDU sector software rental joy
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
http://m.collegiatetimes.com/news/article_ac92dd80-53f6-11e4-af0c-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm If you have time, read and research for yourself how Adobe is "handling" students, but some choice selections from recent article: "All students must buy the software regardless of grade level, meaning students that already own the Creative Suite software will still have to purchase the Creative Cloud software....

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Re: More EDU sector software rental joy
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "Isn't it the school that's requiring the students to subscribe?" Adobe is of course actively seeking, in conjunction with universities and colleges to force as many students as possible, as quickly as possible into subscriptions whether they like it or not, and clearly many students don't like it...

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Re: More EDU sector software rental joy
by Tim Wilson in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Sorry, been away for a bit, so replying to a bunch of posts at once.... [Oliver Peters] "What's the difference between requiring software and requiring textbooks?" Exactly. I just looked this up . The average cost of textbooks for a year is $1200, and $200 for a single title is...

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Re: More EDU sector software rental joy
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Why do colleges choose to force students to buy certain software for certain classes to begin with?" For the same reason that a motorcycle engineering school might require that you purchase wrenches to work on motorcycles I suppose. The fact is they do. I am WAY past the...

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Re: More EDU sector software rental joy
by Walter Soyka in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] "Really? Are you saying Adobe is simply not involved in this process?" Are you saying that Adobe shouldn't be free to market their products and services as they see fit? If you want them to sell something differently than they do because you won't buy something differently than...

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Re: Why isn´t there a Super-Hero
by Herbert van der wegen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
That's what the current consumerist society offers us: quick sound bites, quick and easily digestible little apps, the latest, the greatest, newest toys that last a month, and interest wanes. Gotta get that new rush of adrenaline, the newest phone, quick: take a selfie! Is my bum big? Is my...

5 months ago   read more
Black Magic: Fusion 7 - (basic package released free)
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Black Magic continues to amaze me (cameras especially for example), getting increasingly encouraged that I'll have alternatives to AE when CS6 finally dies and I can leave Adobe in my rear view mirror: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion They are apparently releasing the basic version for free, with the Studio version for $995.00: https://news.creativecow.net/story/877682...

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Re: Black Magic: Fusion 7 - (basic package released free)
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Hey, thanks for the info, Chris. I just downloaded the user manual. I too may want to wrap my head around nodes and such. Imagine that: a real manual. Brings a tear of nostalgia to my eye. Dave LaRonde Promotion Producer KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA...

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Re: Black Magic: Fusion 7 - (basic package released free)
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Florian Sepp]: "...with this blackmagic starts to rip adobe apart. like adobe did it once with quark. and they are to vain to recognice it. black magic now stated to be the competitor..." Indeed! Competition! A radical concept! It will certainly be interesting to watch how Fusion fares against After...

4 months ago   read more
I Wonder How Things Are in CC Paradise?
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
This morning I checked on Adobe's After Effects forum. Normally it's full of posts with titles like, "How do I make this effect?" or "How can I make shapes from Illustrator paths?" Not this morning! Check out these titles, all posted in the first 9 hours of Thursday, December 4:...

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CNET running a survey about CC...
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
If you want to take part in a survey that CNET is running about CC then you can check out their story (and survey link in 3rd paragraph) here: http://www.cnet.com/news/survey-why-are-you-still-using-adobes-old-cs6-products/ This article was posted today (12/4/14) so it appears that they are trying to get a year-end look at where...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Key passage from the article: ...But don't expect the company to break out how many subscriptions were for the full CC suite, how many were for the less expensive Photoshop Photography Program and how many for other single products. Another question is how many are individual subscriptions compared with the...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
BTW from the 2013 CNET poll (old data but still relevant)...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
As of now I only need Final Cut Pro X and Motion. Waiting for Fusion to make it over to the Mac platform and seeing how it might integrate with Resolve, time will tell. I think once Resolve becomes a better and more viable option for an NLE as well,...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Hi Chris They are hiding it very well, but you can have a look at the numbers (Page 9 from this PDF): Script of Q3/2014 PDF In Q3/FY13 81% of the 1,037 m Subscriptions were Full Products (= 839,000). In Q3/FY14 64% of the 2,810 m Subscriptions were Full Products...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
most of us would not mind a subscription if at the end ee could keep a full funcioning suite, granted with no upgrade option without subscribing again as a new user. but since greed is more important to the moderen business i wont be part of it. if i wanted...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Let´s say, you bought your wonderful, glorious, pinky, so overwhelming Cow 2.0. Are happy, with the milk, that´s only healthy, if you don´t stop to pay for Cow 2. Regardless what the Vendor will take for it in the future. Regardless, that he can take some of the ingredients out....

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Shane Ross in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
That survey was too broad. Too few questions for too broad a user base. They needed to narrow it to the Photographers, graphic designers, motion graphics, video editors, web designers...etc. And I still find it VERY odd that if you are a video editor, and get the CC, you get...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andy Field] "Adobe saw that there's no future in a finite set of users who aren't consistent return customers." Finite? You're kidding right? New art students being generated like Doritos every day, until recently bred on a steady diet of Adobe "milk". Adobe has (over time) established themselves as the...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
whan adobe was finite it had 12 million users now its infinite and has maybe 3.2 million users. its only making money with cs6 continuing purchases and the marketing cloud. so what kind of finite is better? had they continued to be finite the woulld have probably added many millionsmore...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
In short, access to your files and projects, and an off ramp with working software that doesn't break the bank. Something we had with perpetual licensing. It really is quite simple. Jim Wiseman Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.1.1, Final Cut Studio 2...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Mike Parfit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
The sad thing about this is how much of it is about perceptions of risk that may only graze the edge of reality. I count myself among those who make choices based on those perceptions. For me, if the CC package turns out to be as good as many are...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mike Parfit] " But the perception that I risk being caught in a backwater eddy in which Adobe holds me hostage for much higher rent if I want to continue using a program in which I have worked hard to become proficient, is simply too big a concern right now....

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Innovation = Buying Companies
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Together with their financial data Adobe announced today, that it´s willing to acquire fotolia. Hurrah? I don´think so. Like most of The Cloud-Vendors Creative & Marketing Apps they were simply bought. Innovation isn´t made inhouse and to the needs of customers. Seems that Software-Market will be dominated by the Big...

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Re: Innovation = Buying Companies
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Yes, Microsoft has destroyed much previously very good software by buying out companies. iView Media Pro photo cataloging software for instance. Microsoft bought it and renamed it Expression. Never worked properly ever after. It even spoiled the functionality of my iView version so thoroughly that I had to reinstall the...

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Re: CNET running a survey about CC...
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Gary Huff] "Plus, you don't lose access to your "files"...the raw data you used to craft your work. I think that's where the argument has its popularity, helping to convince lurkers that they would lose access to their actual footage who haven't looked into it enough to know what a...

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Re: Article on why more software companies now offer Subsription only
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Well, there are some companies that are taking the opposite tack. They are positioning themselves to be the go-to destination for those customers who do NOT want to go the "software subscription" route. Here are 2 of them: ------------- http://www.quark.com/2015/?gclid=CM-D96qs0sICFSyZMgod5FEAnA In the first roll-up on that page there is a...

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Re: Users moaned about Adobe PRo CC 2014.1
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Wow!!!! Soooo many BugFixes. To correct all the fast delivered updates. Happy New Year & Peace on earth (ok, on clouds also)...

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Re: Users moaned about Adobe PRo CC 2014.1
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Nice. And - if that´s what you are usually doing - I think I understand, why you don´t have any concern against that "cloud". As you wrote "finished". Seems, your work mostly gets to an end. Things are done & the projects will never come on the table again. No...

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Re: Users moaned about Adobe PRo CC 2014.1
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Sure. Think of Catalogues, which are update year by year. But big parts are based on former years. Fair Trailers, which only get new subtitels or modified sequenzes (Because there is another fair in a different region). Adds which remain the same, but are translated to other countries. Websites, whose...

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Re: Users moaned about Adobe PRo CC 2014.1
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andy Field] "Does your client pay when you redo or update the project?" So we're not entitled to simply be artists in addition to business people? We are only entitled to edit video if we have a fully funded and currently paying client? I cant edit video for a pro-bono...

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Re: Users moaned about Adobe PRo CC 2014.1
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Rainer Schubert] " Nice Christmas Time to you and your Family!" And to you Rainer my friend, and everyone else! Merry Christmas...

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Profit before and after Creative Cloud?
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Post deleted from previous thread before posting in new thread. Jim Wiseman Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.1.4, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.5, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic...

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Re: Profit before and after Creative Cloud?
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
This from 3 months ago, but similar conclusions: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/390835/dark-clouds-for-adobe-as-profits-slide-by-46...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I think that the thing that will be most telling will be if Adobe begins missing their subscription projections. So far, they have managed to add the numbers they were expecting to. But if those numbers begin to fall short of projections, then it will likely be the case that...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Here's the link from Google News. It worked for me and may still work for others: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=6&ved=0CEEQqQIoADAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.wsj.com%2Fcfo%2F2015%2F01%2F16%2Fadobe-systems-cfo-managing-business-model-transformation%2F&ei=Scy5VMDHKonxoASek4DgAw&usg=AFQjCNHQdj_4fss0Mq7CnDNjNqGKO3nW7A&sig2=e8M8hnfxUKV1Zb6aDua-jA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.cGU Thanks for pointing to this article. It's fascinating to read these words from the CFO himself. The self-righteousness is pretty spectacular. ‘Like it or leave.’ Well, OK then. One last key set of...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Ricardo Marty] "yes i want cc only, to fail" I think that really sums up your opinions - it sounds sad and bitter. But hey, every person their point of view. You are right, there are nothing that I can say, suggest or argue that will change your mind. But...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "It's worked out pretty well for Apple. ;)" Yes it certainly did. Why is that? I'd say that's because Apple has the exact opposite attitude and business strategy from Adobe. Here's a recent quote from Tim Cook: “We design our products to surprise and delight everyone who uses...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
It sounds like Mr. Garrett assumes that Adobe won't face any kind of new competition. All takes is a nudge. New competitors to key Adobe products could be a massive push. Dave LaRonde Promotion Producer KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Dave LaRonde in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I don't beleve for a minute that this Garrett guy takes his own words to heart. "Burn the boats.." If the guy actuslly believed it, CS6 wouldn't still be availabe for purchase. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that two-versions-old suite of applications is helping Adobe stay profitable. Helping a...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Andrew Kimery in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "Adobe Story CC + 28 apps (incl PPro, AE, Scout, Speedgrade, Photoshop, Acrobat Pro to mention a few) + Behance + Typekit + market - do you have that in your CS6? " Nothing has reached 'killer app' status though. Behance, cloud storage, Typekit and the Market...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "None! the "Cloud" name, at present is mostly just that - a name. Adobe aren't pushing the Creative Cloud as actual cloud technology, surely?" That's my point. Creative Cloud is currently a marketing name and revenue model. This revenue model clearly benefits Adobe and for some customers, it's...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Steve Connor in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Lawrence] "This revenue model clearly benefits Adobe and for some customers, it's a good fit. But there's no technical reason why it couldn't be offered as desktop software as well. In order to get more than just the "low hanging fruit" subscribers, " They have taken a gamble on...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "He said "From a customer point of view, you have to nudge them to the new model, slowly but surely, by not giving them a new option any more." that's why there's no other option so if there's no perpetual licenses available in a couple of years we'll...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Dave LaRonde] ""Burn the boats.." If the guy actuslly believed it, CS6 wouldn't still be availabe for purchase. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that two-versions-old suite of applications is helping Adobe stay profitable. Helping a LOT. Burn the boats? Yeah, right....." This particular point seemed obvious to me long...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] ". I'm just poking fun at the fact that no matter what Adobe does some in this forum will give the flak." Some people just hate Adobe. Agenda. Gotcha Funny how that started right when they announced mandatory subscriptions. I'm having trouble finding all the posts slamming Adobe...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Isn't your agenda (as well as David's, Jim's, etc.,) to generate enough consumer backlash against Adobe that Adobe has no choice but to start offering PLs again in some capacity?" I wouldn't frame it that way Andrew. Speaking only for myself, my agenda is to get Adobe to...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Interesting use of language on the CFO's part, 'burn' the boats - no way back. This conjures up images for me of war time, desperate measures, destroy it so that your enemy can't use it. Then...'nudge' I'm being nudged! but the CEO of the company said they were 'aggressively' moving...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I think David Lawrence's earlier comments are right on. Adobe's decision to go sub-only has alienated millions of their customers and also left millions of dollars on the table. Had they decided to allow both avenues (i.e. subscription as well as perpetual) they could have had the best of both...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "The statement is unproven superstitions on behalf of a small angry mob ;-) " Yup....a "small angry mob" that currently resides within a population numbering approximately 9 million! ;) As noted earlier, time will tell which side is correct. Adobe started this CC thing about 2 years...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "So they fall into the middle ground between "too greedy" and "not quite greedy enough"? ;)" No, what I think we're saying is well described in this little story ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goose_That_Laid_the_Golden_Eggs _______________________ David Lawrence art~media~design~research propaganda.com publicmattersgroup.com http://lnkd.in/Cfz92F facebook.com/dlawrence twitter.com/dhl vimeo.com/dlawrence/albums...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Another number of things can happen between now the 2020 forecast. There has been much change recently. Fusion has been recently acquired by BMD and no more subscription plan. It could be bundled with Resolve in another package. Resolve could be a NLE and finishing tool, heading that direction. Need...

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Re: Adobe CFO: our way or....
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "In 2010 Apple execs cashed in over 1 million shares of APPL. http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/26/apple-executives-cash-in-over-1-million.. . In 2013 execs (including Cook) cashed in over 100,000 shares. http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/27/numerous-apple-executives-sell-millions-wort.. . They must not have any confidence in Apple... ;) " Naww, Andrew....it's more of a case that Tim and company are running...

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Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
When Adobe started this crazy ride, my friend Charles Reilly made a video about why the move by Adobe to mandatory subscriptions was such a ominous development. Among many reasons was his questions about where it might lead us if the other software giants follow suit, as they were certainly...

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Re: Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "However: Windows 10 will be FREE to users that has Windows 7 onwards installed. So you can't really be complaining about a free product, can you? Why is it free? Because it will, like iTunes is for Apple, be a Window where Microsoft can offer you other...

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Re: Windows 10 - Here we go
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "I share the same concerns as Walter Soyka about the long term viability of the 'software as a freebie' business model. Is BM buying up established players and then giving them away for peanuts (while tying them to BM hardware of course) really that great of a solution?...

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Apple Posts Biggest Quarterly Earnings of any Company EVER
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Top Ten Largest Corporate Quarterly Earnings Of All Time: 1. Apple, 2015 1Q – $18.04 billion 2. Gazprom, 2011 1Q – $16.24 billion 3. Royal Dutch Shell, 2008 2Q – $16.18 billion 4. ExxonMobil, 2008 3Q – $15.27 billion 5. Apple, 2014 1Q – $13.10 billion 6. Apple, 2013 1Q...

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Re: Autodesk to go (Mostly) Subscription Only on 2/1/2016
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Here's a key passages from yesterdays Studio Daily post: "Aware of the general resistance to subscription-only software licensing in some corners of the industry, Autodesk is treading cautiously but deliberately. "We will partner with customers through this transition," Autodesk Senior VP of Industry Strategy and Marketing Andrew Anagnost told StudioDaily,...

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Re: Autodesk to go (Mostly) Subscription Only on 2/1/2016
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Chris Pettit] ""Users with perpetual licenses will receive benefits, including software upgrades, as long as their maintenance subscriptions are active. However, multi-year maintenance subscription discounts will be discontinued. If you don't renew your maintenance subscription, you will be able to keep using the upgraded software under your existing perpetual license...

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Nearly $12.5 million in last 30 days...
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Adobe CEO has sold nearly $12.5 million worth of his Adobe shares in the last 30 days. Recently, he "unexpectedly" sold 36,762 shares and had earlier sold an additional 136,762 shares. According to this article (see link), he now owns 276,181 shares of Adobe stock: http://www.octafinance.com/warning-adobe-systems-nasdaqadbe-optimists-shantanu-narayen-just-unloaded-36762-shares/ That's a pretty fair...

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Re: Nearly $12.5 million in last 30 days...
by Gabe Strong in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I was always taught you shouldn't burn your bridges. Whatever. Do what you gotta do Adobe. I'll do the same. Currently, that involves putting in a lot of time learning FCP X, so when CS6 doesn't work so well anymore....... Gabe Strong G-Force Productions www.gforcevideo.com...

2 months ago   read more
New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Jim Wiseman in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Check this out. This looks serious. InDesign competition later this year. http://www.creativebloq.com/computer-arts/first-real-alternative-photoshop-launched-and-its-free-21514137 Jim Wiseman Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.1.4, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.5, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
In some ways it looks better than Photoshop, and I think a lot of people or more than ready for apps that are built on new code base that takes better advantage of new developments in hardware, instead of the same old stuff. And with a Windows version on the...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I wonder who they're referring to here?...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by David Miller in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Just as a reminder....when I made my first posts on this site some months ago, I made mention of the new Affinity line of applications that were under development from the English company called Serif. Affinity Designer (a vector program which is meant to ultimately be a competitor with Illustrator)...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
lets just pray that adobe wont purchase them. ricardo marty...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Jim Wiseman] "Affinity also has a Facebook page. One feature that jumped out was that Designer (Illustrator competitor) and Photo will share a common file format. Designer has been getting raves and high sales numbers on the Mac App Store. Affinity Photo beta was just released and is available for...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
One of many similar posts I've seen in the last 24 hours: "....After trying this for about two hours I have just been on to Adobe to cancel my creative cloud sub (they don't make it as bloody easy to cancel as signing up do they). I've been mainly using...

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Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
As soon as Fusion makes its Mac debut, looking at it to replace both Photoshop and After Effects though Motion will still have its place. The best part? Even the free version of Fusion comes with a particle emitter. Particles are fun!...

2 months ago   read more
Re: New High End Competition for Photoshop
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] " Even the free version of Fusion comes with a particle emitter. Particles are fun!" Don't get me going!:...

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Re: Nothing has changed - including never ending discounts
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Adobe might be on it´s alltime high the last days. But the whole Application market does very well over the last month. I think their CEO threw out that big amounts of his stock to invest it in AVID or Apple. These companies - who provide fair licenses & not...

4 weeks ago   read more
Re: More subscriptions
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "Looks like MS Office will be subscription-only from here on out if I read this right." See this article: http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/05/microsoft-office-mac-2016-preview/ "Pricing for a standalone version for Mac without requiring an active subscription is expected closer to launch." Microsoft is smart enough to know that no perpetual option would...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Speedgrade CS6 or Resolve 11 lite?
by Oliver Peters in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[David Smith] "Does Resolve do superior work? Does it have more features? It certainly doesn't feel easier to use from my first experiments." I work in both and if you are going to use a standalone grading tool, Resolve is the way to go. Several reasons: 1. SG CS6 misses...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: More subscriptions
by David Lawrence in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "As a consumer, I hate it, not because it's inherently bad, but rather because a lot of companies are going to it. After awhile this all starts to add up to serious money and like your cable bill, gets to a point where you want to start cutting...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Apple Replaces AT&T on the Dow Jones Industrials Index
by Tim Wilson in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Jim Wiseman] "It's pretty clear you have an anti Apple attitude." Quite the contrary. I think they've changed the world in ways that they never even get credit for. And are about to do so again, twice, in ways that most of the COW is fighting me on. I'm working...

3 weeks ago   read more
What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
For those who are of the opinion that this "cloud" named thing is loved by most users... Only a few old world fellows don´t like to rent... A view ratings of CC at Amazon (where it´s available): USA: 1.5 Stars ( Amazon USA ) Germany: 2 Stars ( Amazon Germany...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
fine for you. but if you read money is not the reason behind most of the post here. ricardo marty...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by David Mathis in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I have nothing against Adobe, nor do I think they are full of greed. To me it is a business model, one that I do not and, for the moment, cannot agree with, with all due respect. To me, the business model, as is for the moment, has nothing to...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Rainer Schubert] "If I think of the access to my files, they hold the key, which I rent and give it back to them. Not physical - indeed - but virtual & with the same effect." I'm not concerned about whether you perceive it as a rental, or whether you...

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Re: What Amazon Users think about Clouds...
by Rainer Schubert in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "you can always resume your subscription to Adobe CC - which can be by the app" As I wrote, or? You can rent the key to access again. [Mads Nybo Jørgensen] "you can always create master files that can be opened in other programs" Tell me the...

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Re: Access to files (For Rainer & Chris)
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
for my money that's all basically wrong. exhaustively argued but wrong. I do stems and stuff too - also clean masters, textless masters etc. that has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to return to modify originated work. that exists in the project file. tortuous methodologies to stripe output...

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Re: new video software survey from the cow
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
yes, add to that the dip in cc subscriptions in q1. its seems like they are concerened. ricardo marty oh i so hope that resolve gets its act together. with fusion....

1 week ago   read more
Re: bundling changes
by Chris Pettit in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Ricardo Marty] "Adobe will be doing some bundling changes and promotions to offset the disapointing results." I agree - a possibility. After blowing off even loyal CC subscribers when asked for a lower priced bundle option, I'll bet they may try to correct trends in subscription numbers with package fiddling....

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Re: bundling changes
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
abode just added a new cloud based on documents. they took acrobat out cc and added it to a new app purchased. its basically going to compete with google docs. so maybe they can add some more subscribers and call adobe cc a total succsess. they might divide cc by...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Ricardo Marty in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
yes, they dont want our money. ricardo marty...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
Given that with the current model, I won't be renting software from Adobe, they are putting themselves in a position where as a customer, I represent a bad deal for them. Actually, as a consumer, I don't look at a product and really consider whether it represents a bad deal...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Mads Nybo Jørgensen in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
[Billy Payn] "Actually, as a consumer, I don't look at a product and really consider whether it represents a bad deal for the company, I rather look at it as whether or not it is a good or bad deal for me, and I reserve the right to decide where...

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Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Billy Payn in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
The upgrade cycle was not an even frequency, and sometimes the upgrades were not attractive enough to tempt me to 1 spend the cash or 2 spend the time uninstalling then reinstalling software, and if I did, working out why it was doing things differently, like conformimg audio ~ some...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Adobe Q1 - 2015 Good or bad
by Marco Catania in the Adobe Creative Cloud: The Debate Forum
I’m following the Adobe Creative Cloud Debate very interested for a long time. And I would like to make some comments. I cannot understand, why a lot people from the pro CC side seem not to accept, that the contra CC side has no intention to take something away from...

3 days ago   read more
Re: DaVinci Resolve Count Down Timer
by Juan Salvo in the DaVinci Resolve Forum
True, and you could make a grilled cheese with an iron... but is that really the best way to go about it? http://JuanSalvo.com http://theColourSpace.com...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Feature Suggestion: a 4th picture for scene cut detection
by jake blackstone in the DaVinci Resolve Forum
As I said, if BMD just slowed down a bit and instead of introducing 150 new editing features every year, just went over all main grading operations and cleaned up the buggy mess, Resolve would become a much better color grading platform. Improving or allowing custom mapping, simplifying the caching...

5 months ago   read more
Re: FCP7 is dead. Why can't there be a new FCP7?
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Funny how the Adobe Mission Statement also fails to contain any mention of video editing. Guess by your "mission statement metric" - video comes in at below the after through level for that organization as well?" Both Adobe and Avid make mention of media creation which editing is...

6 months ago   read more
Re: FCP7 is dead. Why can't there be a new FCP7?
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Charlie Austin] "NOOOOOOO!!!!" Obviously you meant:...

6 months ago   read more
Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I think the average editor would instinctively barf at the sight of fusion. It's a bit of an unskinned pitbull really. not quite nuke horrors but still.. [David Mathis] "I wonder if this is partly a response to Blackmagic Design acquiring Fusion by any chance" i think the adobe team...

6 months ago   read more
Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Which of the major practical functions which are baked into the DNA of X (that I mentioned by specific description) do YOU think is worth trading away to get "better key framing" or one of the other elements mentioned in this thread? Is Import from iMovie baked into...

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Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] " Talking points in Adobe demo's would be my guess?" Fanciful supposition(!) but in truth Adobe focuses on presenting what we are doing for our customers based on constant feedback from said customers as well as observations on trends, new technology, emerging workflows, etc....

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Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Well, except for the little "monthly rental ONLY for rest of your career - and don't dare fail to pay or you're cut off from all your work product unless you're a photographer" thing. I think it's pretty fair to point out they're kinda having a bit of...

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Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "2. A range based key wording system. Markers in Premiere/Prelude can be named and can extend for arbitrary lengths of time. [Bill Davis] "1. An integrated database." All NLEs are databases... but announced for the next release of Premiere Pro CC 2014 at IBC, a couple of features...

6 months ago   read more
Re: 10 Things Steve Martin wants in FCP X
by Richard Herd in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Dennis Radeke] "Premiere Pro gets an "A"." A for Adobe! And also Dynamic Link: Audition, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Speed Grade, and Media Encoder are simply an amazing suite. Just screened a 5 minute video for a non-profit addiction recovery facility, and the client and agency sat in for the...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
by Bill Davis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
It's been all over the major FCP X sites for the past week. As much as I love the debate here,, this forum has a bit of a reputation for trashing X, so the eyeballs of the active FCP X user community have largely moved elsewhere. Multiple front page stories...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
by Neil Goodman in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Its been said here a bunch of times that FCPX is great for front end - AE type of work. Dailies, organizing, conforming, etc. No ones argues that and this video solidifies it in the motion picture world. Thats great I want to know how the timeline helped make the...

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Re: Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
There are a zillion different ways that editors and directors approach the workflow of cutting a feature film. Some editors do extensive temp mixes, while others keep the timeline very sparse. Some rely on tools like ScriptSync and others never touch them. Some feature films could and are cut on...

6 months ago   read more
Re: Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
by Gary Huff in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "As much as I love the debate here,, this forum has a bit of a reputation for trashing X, so the eyeballs of the active FCP X user community have largely moved elsewhere." Hey Bill, 2011 called, it wants its putdowns back....

6 months ago   read more
Re: Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Fair is fair. And if OR NOT means Adobe discussions in X forums, then OR NOT kinda has to suppose that X discussions in Adobe Forums are fair too." It's not like it's against the rules to post about "Or Not" software in the CC Debate forum. It's...

6 months ago   read more
Re: All about precision. PPro Gone Girl promo with a flash frame
by Daniel Frome in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
That isn't a Ppro issue. That's an editor issue....

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Re: All about precision. PPro Gone Girl promo with a flash frame
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
And producer issue...and online issue...for no one seeing that. Shane Little Frog Post Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def...

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Re: And the first major Hollywood feature to be edited in FCPX and released is...
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I think the point that FCP X's use is interesting for the workflow is very valid. However, I think it's wrong to set up Premiere as the choice because it's close to what came before. The reason Premiere Pro made the cut for "Gone Girl" was largely because of its...

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Re: All about precision. PPro Gone Girl promo with a flash frame
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
How strange that someone from a company that makes an NLE would keep an eye on a forum where people discuss NLEs......

5 months ago   read more
Re: TED Goes FCPX
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "Never mind that I consider myself a "senior editor", just not that kind. I can differentiate." Robin, I read a lot of your posts here and know you to be a very smart and sincerely helpful person -- very giving of your time, and a real asset...

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Re: And the first major Hollywood feature to be edited in FCPX and released is...
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "Need I go through the list from ADOBE and AVID, so as to put yours to shame?" While certainly a bit off topic, I'd like to see the list you have with regards to video centric products from Adobe....

5 months ago   read more
Re: Houston We Have A Problem
by Chris Harlan in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Yeah, see--I need an OS that goes to 11. Drumroll. Crickets....

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Re: Houston We Have A Problem
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Charlie Austin] "Well, there's your problem. lol I can't remember the last time I did a clean install. I think if you have a decent ongoing maintenance regimen you don't really need to." I disagree. I used to feel that way, too, but since have been burned. I feel that...

5 months ago   read more
Time and Change
by Franz Bieberkopf in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I've arrived somehow, somewhere over 3 years, at 1000 posts. It might be time to retire. I had intended to put together something of a "best-of" to mark the occasion, but as I have neither the time nor the coherent strategy to do so, I'll use the opportunity to thank...

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Re: Time and Change
by David Lawrence in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Franz, I think you're one of the most well-considered, articulate and thought provoking voices in this forum. I've enjoyed your posts immensely and learned a lot from them. Thank you. I hope even if you don't post as often in the future, you'll continue to pop in every now and...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Time and Change
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
easily the most peculiarly interesting person to have posted here as long as I've been around anyway. the fact that he's a left wing weimar fictional thief scrabbling desperately across Alexanderplatz notwithstanding. great posts. http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics...

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Re: Time and Change
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I don't know what you're retiring from Franz, but I certainly hope it's not the COW! I value your time as well as the attention you pay to language choice and diction. I also admire your near historical curation of topics and posts as they relate to the most recent...

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Re: Red Giant Offload
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
The point of it is more for location work than for FCP users. But, I like to manage and control my media outside of the NLE. So, I definitely would use it long before I would do camera archives inside FCP X. That's an inherently closed system. As for PProCC...

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Re: A Sneaky Feeling...
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "Good point. If it weren't for the constant massive delays on Intel's side, I'm sure the Mac Pros (i.e. Apple) would certainly already have widened the gap to the iMacs. Not something Apple has any influence over. " If Apple truly wanted a wide performance gap between...

5 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX vs PPro CC
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Ronny Courtens] "As a professional you seriously test the different options yourself and then you decide what works best for your particular workflow. You also should test Avid, which is still an industry standard." This right here is the best advice you can receive. You need to determine what works...

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Re: FCPX vs PPro CC
by Dennis Radeke in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Oi vey... anthropomorphic subjective...

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Re: FCPX vs PPro CC
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "Or just date both" Date both? I didn't take you for a godless heathen, polygamist, Steve. ;) If people start dating both then what are the "one daters" supposed to do with all the straw man arguments, false dichotomies and confirmation bias they've stockpiled over the years? Won't...

5 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX vs PPro CC
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "perhaps a haiku" The debate rages Albeit with some less rage Beyde zayn nitslekh Oi gevalt, nu? Mishegoss iz meshuggah Gei ga zinta hait...

5 months ago   read more
Wow, Honda, wow. Really cool use of X.
by Bill Davis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Thomas Grove Carter who apparently edited this for Honda on X just posted it in another group. Talk about adapting editing to the new web delivery realities brilliantly. Here's a quote. "Fcpx was a dream to cut this with. Such a fantastic tool which benefited me in so many ways...

5 months ago   read more
Re: The Honda Ad Timeline
by Thomas Carter in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I'm here I'd anyone wants to ask or snipe away!...

5 months ago   read more
Old dogs new tricks
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This topic crops up from time to time in this forum and it did again in the “Honda” thread. It seems like a separate thread would be better than hijacking one. James brought up the concern about job security and that caused folks to trot out the tired comments about...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Eyeon Fusion now Black Magic Fusion 7.5 is out, FREE !!!!
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Said Grant Petty, Blackmagic Design CEO : “Now, with the free version of Fusion, everyone from individual artists to the biggest studios can create Hollywood caliber visual effects and motion graphics!" That's so true. All you need is access to free software and you're instantly a Hollywood standard visual effects...

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Re: Old dogs new tricks
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "I'm sorry, but to say that an NLE that only NOW is starting to support things like 4K and resolution independence (yes, Avid) and has only very recently become 64bit when the others have had both for several years, is equally advanced? Not to mention the months...

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Re: Eyeon Fusion now Black Magic Fusion 7.5 is out, light version free, No OSX
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Michael Gissing] "Will I be a Hollywood grade VFX artist by the weeks end? Hardly expect the tools to make up for experience and skill but thank you Blackmagic for making it easier to expand my toolset and skills." If Mr Petty were to buy ProTools and release it for...

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Re: Eyeon Fusion now Black Magic Fusion 7.5 is out, light version free, No OSX
by Michael Gissing in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I totally understand your point. My whole career has been based on getting results from tools like Fairlight FCP Suite and now Resolve. Frankly I dont really care if powerful tools are cheap enough that there is a greater access and democratisation because that doesnt impact on any advantage I...

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Re: Eyeon Fusion now Black Magic Fusion 7.5 is out, light version free, No OSX
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Michael Gissing] "Frankly I dont really care if powerful tools are cheap enough that there is a greater access and democratisation because that doesnt impact on any advantage I may have from 30 years of experience on previous more expensive tools." I think that was really my point, not so...

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Re: Eyeon Fusion now Black Magic Fusion 7.5 is out, light version free, No OSX
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] " Can't see using it for motion graphics, since that's certainly not one of it's strengths in comparison to others imho." Here's a bunch of motion graphics work that the Fusion community put together, counting down the days to the Fusion 7 preview webinar last year. These...

5 months ago   read more
Re: Old dogs new tricks
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "I just chafe a bit at the sentiment so often expressed here that FCP X is the NLE of Destiny and that using any other is a poor choice." I don't like that sentiment either, and I'm a person who likes what X has to offer. I know...

4 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX: A Lesson in Language
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
One of my favorite bits of script writing lately...from the show SLEEPY HOLLOW: Ichabod: Do you know that in my day, the word "awful" meant awe inspiring And the the term "intercourse" meant conversation? Abbie: So if I went out with a guy and we had 'awful intercourse,' we'd be...

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Re: FCPX: A Lesson in Language
by Michael Gissing in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I used to tease my father by saying the sure sign of getting old was complaining that language was deteriorating not evolving. To counter he would point out that forced change, common in advertising and politics was designed to obfuscate and was not evolution but subversive and undesirable. He had...

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Re: Old dogs new tricks
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Robin S. Kurz] "Hear hear. No idea why simply expressing a personal preference and maybe a different view or experience on matters put to discussion (or NOT I guess??) is axiomatically interpreted as an attack on any and every personal preference, view or experience someone else may have. Interpreted to...

4 months ago   read more
LG Thunderbolt Monitor 21:9 UHD
by Keith Koby in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
So we got a couple of these new(ish) (I think they've been out for a few months) LG thunderbolt monitors. In light of the iMac 5k and no apple retina alternative for the nMP, I thought I'd post some thoughts on the LG. Here's a link to BH's page for...

4 months ago   read more
FCPX on 5K iMac
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Spent the day editing on FCP X at a clients office on their new 5K iMac. (Yes I have Clients that use FCPX!) Very VERY impressed with the speed of FCP X, Zero interface lag, fast renders and that screen!!! It's convinced me to get one instead of the new...

4 months ago   read more
FCPX Dogs, New Names
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Before I get properly started, my apologies for the delay replying to the fun started on Old Dogs thread . Other parts of my job intervened, but I'm back to the fray. I've also been thinking a lot about this. Here's where I'm at right now. I've said from the...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Mark Sanger (Oscar Winner for Editing - Gravity) Avid vs FCPX
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Talking about conservatism in contexts like this is the ultimate straw man argument. There's not one person in this forum who was looking for a new NLE in April 2011. Not one. Or if there is, you haven't spoken up until now. If you COULD have stayed with a less...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Mark Sanger (Oscar Winner for Editing - Gravity) Avid vs FCPX
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Sorry...he's spot on. On big budget shows, you need a proven tool that works. Most people don't want something that's very new to the field, that doesn't have a solid workflow in place yet. There are a few that are pioneers, and they didn't go into things without issues. When...

4 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX: A Lesson in Language
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Well, so I guess when a single company actually creates something that works functionally differently from the original, they just have to keep using the same terminology?" Apple can call a color with zero luminance "white" and I'm sure you would be able to justify it. They can...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Before I buy.....
by Robin S. Kurz in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I personally still preach the "never edit from the boot disk" mantra daily. For me it also never had anything to do with access speeds or the likes, at least not first and foremost. But rather due to the fact that if IT goes, it ALL goes. IOW if your...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Fcp X 10.1.4
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] " thing this does is improve the interoperability between FCP X and broadcast/post SANs and servers, such as Avid Isis. " Absolutely. This finally legitimizes MXF on the Apple platform. MXF4Mac has worked for a really long time, and worked really well. But now that AV Foundation seems...

4 months ago   read more
Re: Avid to relist on NASDAQ
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Shane Ross] "...and who seem giddy when things go bad for them..." Apple FCPX or Not: The Schadenfreude....

4 months ago   read more
Re: Someone give me quaintifiable evidence of FCPX market penetration. Features. Industrials. Commercials. Weddings. Where?
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
And apparently, I really, like the overuse, of the comma. It's highly, satisfying....

4 months ago   read more
Re: This is when it all changed ...
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Walter Soyka] "Carlyle holds The Foundry in an investment fund...(in this case, 75 million euros to 200 million euros)...." Not euros. POUNDS. [Craig RussillRoy] "expects to realise £200m from the sale....Carlyle Group is said to want to realise its investment of the company, which employs 270" Keep an eye on...

3 months ago   read more
Re: This is when it all changed ...
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Tim Wilson] "That's exactly my point. There are millions of people who know the actual answer to this, rather than my armchair observations, but it seeeeeems to me that a large part of the use of After Effects in mainstream movie and vfx-ish tv making ends with a handoff to...

3 months ago   read more
Re: This is when it all changed ...
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "I think also nodes works best on a single-shot basis, while layers works best for a timeline of several shots back-to-back. That's evident by some of Stu Maschwitz's DV Rebel and ProLost posts about doing complete show grading in AE." Yes indeed! Why? Because the structure of the...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Evidently, some of this is quantified.
by Chris Pettit in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Dennis Radeke] "You're one of the few guys that still bangs on this drum quite a bit." Hi Dennis. I'm not sure that's the case. For every person who is "banging drums" (I'm a confessed drum banger) there are many more that are simply voting with their purchases. As an...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Evidently, some of this is quantified.
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I don't know if you are directly calling differing points of view on this forum inapt, sir, or insinuating we are not capable of making adult decisions? If so, that is pretty out of character and I'm not sure if I like the new Tim. It has been said that...

3 months ago   read more
Re: RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[John Rofrano] " Editors who resist the magnetic timeline need to rethink about what they are doing when they edit." Actually, it's quite the reverse. Editors who resist the magnetic timeline don't have to rethink what they are doing, which is half the story. [John Rofrano] "They are telling a...

3 months ago   read more
Re: RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
by Michael Gissing in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[John Rofrano] " What's a track? There are no "tracks" in real life." When audio DAWs were being created (last century) I was invited to a meeting at Fairlight where they unveiled their first attempt at a DAW following on from their CMI (Computer Musical Instrument). Asked for an opinion...

3 months ago   read more
Re: RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
by Michael Gissing in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[John Rofrano] " What's a track? There are no "tracks" in real life." Actually John, it might be easier to ask where in life there aren't tracks. I see tracks everywhere from roads to the worn paths across the paddock that the cows make to the watering trough. The way...

3 months ago   read more
Re: RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "I absolutely do NOT buy in to the idea that tracks in NLEs "get in the way" of storytelling or the editing process in general, it's just a different way of working." With you 100%. X isn't really a "new paradigm". You still edit just like you always...

3 months ago   read more
Re: RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Thanks for posting the entire quote in context. That I missed a single post in 2011 SHOCKS me. Clearly this is evidence of widespread "dinosaur bashing" (not) ... That one use must have STUNG some folks so hard that it became a persistent meme." I have probably contributed...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I feel very strongly that this is true: "The problem seems to be quite simple: they’re doing too much, with unrealistic deadlines. We don’t need major OS releases every year. We don’t need each OS release to have a huge list of new features. We need our computers, phones, and...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This is true of any software. We ALL want the software to be made stable before new features are released. WE have this talk all the time about NLEs too. We want Avid/FCP/Adobe current feature set to be trouble free, BEFORE we add new ones. Adding new onto the troubled...

3 months ago   read more
Re: Apple has lost the functional high ground
by Phil Hoppes in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
While I would agree that Tim clearly does not have the same focus that Steve had I think it is too soon to tell who's management style succeeds. I worked with Apple a number of years ago as a supply vendor when Steve was there and while I do respect...

3 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "ummm...it's an FCPX forum, right?" Ah, and so much more! The thread itself is a broader inquiry into what Laurie should consider add her next step. This is the most appropriate forum to ask that question. Me, I think Steve's point is well taken. Some vigorous opinions to...

3 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "ummm...it's an FCPX forum, right? " ....or not :)...

3 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Scott Witthaus] "Agreed, and a good reason for "the forum name change"! :-) " Perhaps we could start a new forum to discuss the name change "FCPX or Not - or not!"...

2 months ago   read more
Re: What to DO??? FCP, Premiere, still mad after all these years
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "Perhaps we could start a new forum to discuss the name change "FCPX or Not - or not!"" I feel like we are heading towards a Monty Python skit....

2 months ago   read more
Re: OT: Fusion Studio
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Honestly, I think that Fusion's learning curve will be a turnoff for a lot of people accustomed to the intuitiveness of FCP X and the high-floor/low-ceiling of Motion. One of the comments we see over and over here (which I will attempt to paraphrase here without comment) is that Apple...

2 months ago   read more
Re: OT: Fusion Studio
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Eric Santiago] "To me, FCPX as the an editorial tool requires it to be simple. But when it comes to intricate compositing and grading, then apps such as Fusion and Resolve are welcome in my workflow since Ive had the experience with both and all the other head hurting apps...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by Bob Woodhead in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Why is it that this forum (and techniques) seem to be far more active than the others? Could it be that we're done editing sooner, and thus have more time to post?...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bob Woodhead] "Could it be that we're done editing sooner, and thus have more time to post?" Or that your underemployed and have more time to post? Herb Sevush Zebra Productions --------------------------- nothin' attached to nothin' "Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Grumpy times over on the Cows Creative Cloud or Not board...
by David Mathis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Surely, you must be kidding? I thought it was civilized in here, no pitch forks or flaming torch. By the way did not call you Shirley! ;-) I had to throw an Airplane reference in there....

2 months ago   read more
Re: 3.5 year old blog post still relevant
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Mathis] "Introduce an Apple Cinema Camera with FCP X and Motion for free? ;-)" Where would the market go from there? BMD would have to slash their prices and pay you cash money to download Resolve/Fusion, just to stay competitive. Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live...

2 months ago   read more
Tracks are Indispensable.
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I take it all back. Tracks are great! I love them. ------------------------------------------------------------- ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~ ~"It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools."~ ~"The function you just attempted is not yet implemented"~...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Tracks are annoying as hell...
by Steve Connor in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Good grief, how DID we all cope before FCPX came along!...

2 months ago   read more
Re: FCPX offers what advantages over Premiere?
by tony west in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This is a good thread to show how many things Prp has copied from X A tip of the hat should go to X for that for starters. The connected clip structure of the X TL lets me move huge chunks of the story without even selecting them. In a...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Enlighten me on why Motion is better than After Effects or not
by Shawn Miller in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I can't speak to Motion's strengths or weaknesses. But here's why I think AE rules the roost as a hybrid motion graphics/VFX/finishing tool. The AE community - Ae has a deep bench of smart, dedicated users who have built a knowledge base and a culture which makes it easy for...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Dynamic Trimming in X
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Richard Herd] "But I need to see the tail and the head."...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Enlighten me on why Motion is better than After Effects or not
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Herb Sevush] "To me Motion is an "editors" tool and AE is an "EFX/Compositors" tool." There's a lot to this statement. I've referred to Motion countless times here as offering a high floor and a low ceiling, whereas Ae has a low floor and a high ceiling. I think Herb...

2 months ago   read more
Re: The Next FCPX Update
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Chris Frantz] "This will be one of the features that people will defend Apple not implementing until they do, and then championing it soon afterwards. " See also: A compressed proprietary codec that offers workflow advantages, especially over camera codecs. "Avid DNxHD? Makes no sense!" Then four years later, "PRORES...

2 months ago   read more
Re: The Next FCPX Update
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "And i believe the handwriting is on the wall for that way of "scarcity thinking" of digital assets." I keep trying to pass this off as Soyka's Law: "Expectations rise at the same rate as capabilities." Maybe someday it will catch on! Walter Soyka Designer & Mad Scientist...

2 months ago   read more
FCP X media tracking
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
In case people haven't encountered it yet, FCP X (10.1 and later) is extraordinarily good about keeping track of external media. If you change externally-linked media file locations at the Finder level - including moving files to other folders or renaming host folders - FCP X is able to track...

2 months ago   read more
iBook on the FOCUS FCP X workflow.
by Bill Davis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
On another thread someone asked me if were any articles on the FCP X workflow 1st AE Mike Matzdorff used for the about to be released Will Smith movie FOCUS that I could link for them. I emailed Mike yesterday and got a response indicating that the iBook will be...

2 months ago   read more
Re: Apple Photos
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
it has excellent sliders that provide group control over multiple adjustment parameters, with the ability to drill down and fine tune. It's not hard to imagine certain similar assistance in X with group detection. detecting primary and b-roll and that. Could prove very handy. professional editing is likely in safe...

2 months ago   read more
6hrs into first major FCPX project
by Tom Sefton in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Got some training from Noah and Sam at FCPworks before embarking on a 10 week 4K 3D project in FCPX. I'd previously tried to make the workflow split between Adobe and Resolve for delivery. Just started editing 1 days worth of footage, which includes 2 streams of 4K red footage...

2 months ago   read more
Re: 6hrs into first major FCPX project
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Less Jaded. That used to be my radio name....

2 months ago   read more
Re: Looks brilliant
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I guess I shouldn't focus on the irony that a video about the art of editing contains no editing whatsoever, but is instead a lovely piece of graphic and audio design. Herb Sevush Zebra Productions --------------------------- nothin' attached to nothin' "Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf...

1 month ago   read more
Re: Serious X Editors needed in LA.
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "What are the serious operations in LA? " FCPWORKS is...apparently. And they, according to Sam, are getting requests from people for broadcast/film professionals that use FCX. But so far that's the only place I've seen looking. Not to say that I haven't seen people looking for FCX editors,...

1 month ago   read more
Re: You wanted Color Wheels?
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
I get what you are saying about Resolve, but I think it's an unfair and unrealistic comparison. Most editors, let alone FCP X editors, have no interest in using Resolve, nor have much of a clue as to how to use it once they open it up. The same was...

1 month ago   read more
Re: You wanted Color Wheels?
by Brett Sherman in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "Most editors, let alone FCP X editors, have no interest in using Resolve, nor have much of a clue as to how to use it once they open it up." Sure there are those who wouldn't have a clue as to how to use it. There are others...

1 month ago   read more
Re: In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
by Oliver Peters in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
A nice article, but a HUGE puff piece. For all the discussion about a faster edit, the editing took 11 months. While that's not uncommon for a studio feature - and is likely due to all sort of things, but not due to the choice of editing systems - it...

1 month ago   read more
Re: In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
This was not really an observation about FCP X so much as an observation about this project. The directors didn't feel that an experienced feature film editor would have anything useful to offer. That's a bit surprising. Equally they didn't feel that an experienced titles designer could bring anything of...

4 weeks ago   read more
Re: How are you using metadata?
by Mark Raudonis in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bret Williams] "Just found it funny that my wife did it as old school as possible and was done editing before I was done logging!" Bret, You just made a very important observation: "Logging metadata" is NOT editing! I work with a lot of young assistant editors that seem OVERLY...

4 weeks ago   read more
Re: Apple Watch
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
FOR THE RECORD, I said repeatedly that this is a real product, with a real audience, and Apple has been missing out on its share of a $20 billion market -- before Apple gets in and makes it a much bigger market. People have been buying these for YEARS (they...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Great FCPX Event today in Hollywood!
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "Arri has been in the motion picture camera business since the early 1900s. If that doesn't qualify as old guard, I don't know what would. ;)" For film cameras, obviously, but hey, Apple has been around since 1976. In tech years, that's ancient. Certainly longer than Adobe, Avid,...

3 weeks ago   read more
Re: Return of the Duck!
by Aindreas Gallagher in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[edit] - wes plate is a king - this just set me off on a tangent - I'll just point this out off a recent job because I hadn't fully internalised it (at all): you can now select a clip in the premiere pro timeline and paste it directly into...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: Return of the Duck!
by James Culbertson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Maybe they can do an FCPX to Motion and vice-versa too. ;-)...

2 weeks ago   read more
OT: Documentary clip about new MacBook
by Bret Williams in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Slightly off topic but I know everyone was amazed at the new MacBook. There's a very informative video about the backstory behind the design featuring one of the head engineers. It's a good watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc...

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: First time I have seen this...
by Charlie Austin in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Daniel Frome] "AKA color board chooser. " Hilarious!. :-/ I see this all the time, by the way. "No real FCP X jobs!" "Here's one!" "lol! it's for X! It can't be real. Here. let me list some stupid reasons why it's not!" "Nobody in this business uses X!" "Here's...

2 weeks ago   read more
OT: 1 Billion Viewers, No Profits
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Recently the Wall Street Journal ran an article called about YT's struggles to monetize its content. Basically, YT has massive amounts overhead and can't facilitate a more advertiser friendly experience. YouTube: 1 Billion Viewers, No Profit "The results reflect YouTube’s struggles to expand its core audience beyond teens and tweens....

2 weeks ago   read more
Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] "I think you're being a extremely unfair and insulting here. I've spoken with the folks involved and that's not the impression I got. I think Jan very definitely handled the creative edit in the same sense as any other film editor. While the initial desire might have been...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Tim Wilson in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Oliver Peters] " It's my contention that the media workflow (IMHO as much or more so than FCP X) contributed to the speed and fluidity of the post process on this film." Perhaps, but that's very different than the claims presented in the videos, which are riddled with factual errors...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Focus - Light Iron videos
by Shane Ross in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andrew Kimery] "The message, to me, isn't You no longer need a full time Editor. The message is, You no longer need to be a full time Editor to effectively wrap your head around an NLE." YOU get that message. But there are many out there that feel that the...

1 week ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Simon Ubsdell in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Because the fundamental idea of cutting is to compress information flow, usually so that we can efficiently pack more concepts into a fixed period of time." Hi Bill, Thanks for chiming in. But I'm afraid I just can't buy the notion that "compressing the information flow" is "the...

6 days ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Mathieu Ghekiere in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
Spielberg has talked about it a lot. He said he likes to make scenes where in a way, the audience does their 'own' cutting. I don't agree with it completely, because his staging is as such that he really draws your attention to stuff. If you haven't seen this already,...

5 days ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by David Lawrence in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "In today's VFX heavy movies, I feel like sometimes the editing done is practical to save on VFX costs. The Avengers, which I found to be a really entertaining movie, had some odd and quick cuts because I think if the shots were longer, or more grand, the...

5 days ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Herb Sevush in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[tony west] "We don't see in cuts in real life, we see continuously." While I like long continuous takes where appropriate, I have to disagree with this statement. I'm not arguing that the scene you talked about in TD wasn't fabulous, I just don't think it was fabulous because it...

4 days ago   read more
Re: FCPX Database to get even better
by Jeremy Garchow in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
'....it could achieve 54 billion writes per hour at a cost-per-write of 3 nanodollars. " And that, my friends, is editing a nutshell....

3 days ago   read more
Re: Editing Today - another Philippic
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Bill Davis] "Simon is essentially arguing that a tool like X is a reflection of a trend where editing is becoming infected by a "too much cutting" and that's somehow bad for content creation. " [Bill Davis] "I make these points a lot. BECAUSE I feel they're both relevant AND...

3 days ago   read more
Re: FCPX Database to get even better
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Jeremy Garchow] "'....it could achieve 54 billion writes per hour at a cost-per-write of 3 nanodollars. "" And that, my friends, is editing a nutshell. 3 nanodollars... sounds like compensation from a CraigsList ad....

3 days ago   read more
Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
And this is one reason we are seeing an uptick in software subscriptions. When both companies (like Apple, BM, etc.,) and users devalue software what forms of recourse do software companies have?...

2 days ago   read more
Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Andrew Kimery in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Steve Connor] "That's a bit of a leap!" Why do you say that? If software prices get driven down below the point of sustainability then software makers have to look to alternate business models to generate revenue. That pretty much means going ad supported, freemium and/or subscription. For example, Google...

2 days ago   read more
Re: Critical Sharks IV: Fear of Apple
by Walter Soyka in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[David Lawrence] "True. And the way to get people to upgrade regularly is to offer upgrades that are worth upgrading to. Customers will pay for innovation and value." It's part of my point that customers aren't willing to pay what it costs to deliver innovation and value, because the value...

1 day ago   read more
Re: FCP 7 Editors...need not apply!
by Ryan Holmes in the Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate Forum
[Andy Field] "(FCP7 or Premier exclusive editors need not apply)" This type of language in a job posting always strikes me as strange. I know they are a FCP X facility, and the candidate that would be most comfortable fastest is an editor who knows and uses X already...I get...

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