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Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation...
by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 3:28:32 am

[David Lawrence] "I've pointed to what I see as evidence that tracks are integral to AV Foundation. But I also agree with Craig Seeman's observations about other parts of the AV Foundation spec. It feels like the UI is an expression of this object data model rather than the track parts of the model. That would explain many of the object behaviors as well as the constraints."

I maintain that AVFoundation forces nothing on the UI. The UI is 100% abstracted from the OS frameworks that handle the actual bit-laying. Walter Soyka! Back me up!

[David Lawrence] "This is pure conjecture on my part but I believe that at one point, FCPX did have tracks and that there was a big internal fight for the soul of this product. The track people lost and they were the ones fired in 2010."

Maybe he was flat out lying, but Jobs reportedly said the layoffs were from support, not engineering. Then again, that was the infamous "awesome" email, so I'm probably not changing anyone's mind with such evidence...

Best,
Andy

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NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 29, 2011 at 8:54:14 pm
- Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Jeremy Garchow on Sep 29, 2011 at 9:08:39 pm
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        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Michael Gissing on Sep 30, 2011 at 1:46:07 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Jeremy Garchow on Sep 30, 2011 at 2:30:58 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Michael Gissing on Sep 30, 2011 at 2:36:45 am
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        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 4:37:59 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Michael Gissing on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:16:36 am
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        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 4:37:53 am
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    - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 3:09:14 am
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        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 3:45:14 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 4:34:45 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 4:56:33 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:21:06 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Bill Davis on Sep 30, 2011 at 6:30:48 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Jeremy Garchow on Sep 30, 2011 at 7:17:26 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Walter Soyka on Sep 30, 2011 at 6:57:39 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Walter Soyka on Sep 30, 2011 at 7:15:40 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Jeremy Garchow on Sep 30, 2011 at 7:27:24 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Franz Bieberkopf on Sep 30, 2011 at 8:17:53 pm
- Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Franz Bieberkopf on Sep 30, 2011 at 4:38:22 am
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    - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Bill Davis on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:25:57 am
      - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:35:44 am
      - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Michael Gissing on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:38:07 am
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Bill Davis on Sep 30, 2011 at 6:10:52 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by Michael Gissing on Sep 30, 2011 at 10:16:28 pm
  - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Audio-centric Workflows -- Continuing the Conversation... by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 5:10:25 am
    - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Story-centric Workflows by Franz Bieberkopf on Sep 30, 2011 at 3:14:09 pm
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      - Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Story-centric Workflows by Andrew Richards on Sep 30, 2011 at 6:28:22 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Story-centric Workflows by Franz Bieberkopf on Sep 30, 2011 at 6:54:21 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Story-centric Workflows by David Lawrence on Sep 30, 2011 at 8:38:47 pm
        Re: NLEs, DAWs, Tracks and Story-centric Workflows by David Lawrence on Oct 1, 2011 at 12:39:18 am
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