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Tim Wilson
Re: Avatar
on Dec 24, 2009 at 3:40:38 am

[Ron Lindeboom] "Everyone was pretty much in agreement that the film intelligencia will likely crucify James Cameron"

Please see my post above. This is the best-reviewed movie of the year, by a long shot.

And over the course of his career, Cameron rates higher among reviewers than Scorcese and Speilberg.

These are hard numbers, not theories. There are sites that collect these things, complete with links. You can read for yourself, but I'll save you the trip.

94% positive reviews for Avatar at Rotten Tomatoes from their "Top Reviewers" (New York Times, LA Times, Roger Ebert...who gave it his very highest rating, btw...Boston Globe, New York Magazine, Chicago Sun Times, Film Threat, Times UK, Wall St. Journal, Slate, etc. etc.).

Metacritic is another review aggregator, where the average grades for Avatar add up to a score they call "Universal Acclaim." Its overall score is the highest of any movie in wide release.

The archive at Rotten Tomatoes goes back further, so I looked at other Cameron scores:

Titanic 84% positive
Abyss 85%
Aliens 100%
Terminator 100%
Terminator 2 97%


To put this in context, critic's darling Martin Scorcese won his first Best Picture and Best Director Oscars for The Departed, which I have to agree, Scorcese's best movie by far.

It's score? 92% positive. LESS than Avatar.

Goodfellas? 89%

Casino? 70%

The only one of Scorcese's pictures to score higher than Avatar is Taxi Driver, at 97%....kinda hard to argue with that one...but even Scorcese's top score only ties Cameron's third-ranked picture. Cameron ranks higher on peaks, higher on average.

How's this for a kick in the pants - Speilberg only got 97% positive reviews for Schindler's List!!! A little more than Avatar, but LESS than the acclaim Cameron got for Aliens and Terminator.

Once you look at the actual reviews being written and add them up, James Cameron is doing better than Scorcese or Speilberg. How much better can he possibly do than THAT?

So please tell anybody who asks - the intelligentsia are mostly pretty intelligent. Certainly about Avatar, where they completely agree with you.


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