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Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 12, 2013 at 9:55:48 pm

Does anyone know what was presented today?

I'd be curious to know what was going on with the new hardware.

Thank you,

Jeremy


Re: Pixar our Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:03:13 pm

I'm hoping a video will appear on the WWDC app

Steve Connor

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:04:19 pm

You're saying there's an app for that?

:-D


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:07:27 pm

For devs there is

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:11:50 pm

And us mere mortals?


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:15:37 pm

I would imagine if there is one it will be made public.

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:17:31 pm

Yeah, it'd seem like a decent piece of press.


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:21:39 pm

From the pictures it looks like it was a great presentation!

Steve Connor

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Joseph W. Bourke on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:27:30 pm

Here's something from the Pixar site:

UPDATED June 12 at 1:05 PM PST: An additional comment from Jack Greaser (presented with The Foundry at the event) was posted on the Luxology Forum this afternoon at 11:08 PM PST. In addition to Jack mentioning that the video should be updated this afternoon, he also said, "Jonathan (from Pixar) worked wonders with Mari on the New Mac Pros, No crashes, no slow downs! Phew".

To view the video (as well as many of the other pre-recorded sessions from the WWDC) you will need to sign up for a free Apple Developer account - you can use your existing iTunes or iCloud ID if you have one to sign up. Once you are signed up, the video will be posted on the WWDC event video page.

Joe Bourke
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www.bourkemedia.com


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:42:32 pm

I'll look forward to that!

Steve Connor

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Steve Connor on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:58:34 pm

Wow, the discussions about the new Mac Pro are even more heated on the Luxology forums

Steve Connor

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Eric Santiago on Jun 13, 2013 at 6:38:56 pm

[Steve Connor] "Wow, the discussions about the new Mac Pro are even more heated on the Luxology forums"

As heated as REDUSER?


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Marcus Moore on Jun 13, 2013 at 6:45:59 pm

I can only imagine... But there's been an TB enclosure for a REDROCKET card for a while now. So that's something you don't need PCIe for.




Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Rick Lang on Jun 13, 2013 at 6:33:59 pm

[Joseph W. Bourke] "To view the video (as well as many of the other pre-recorded sessions from the WWDC) you will need to sign up for a free Apple Developer account - you can use your existing iTunes or iCloud ID if you have one to sign up. Once you are signed up, the video will be posted on the WWDC event video page."

I thought it cost $99 per year to be an IOS or Mac developer.

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Joseph W. Bourke on Jun 13, 2013 at 7:05:24 pm

Hi Rick -

That's not what it said on the page that I pasted the information from. Here's the page:

http://www.pixarpost.com/2013/06/pixar-to-conduct-special-lunchtime.html

Scroll down to "Updated June 12 at 1:05:00pm PST".

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
www.bourkemedia.com


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Craig Seeman on Jun 13, 2013 at 7:44:21 pm

I can confirm one can sign up for a free Developers account. I actually had done that a few years ago I believe. I have access to the videos.

It seem the Lunchtime videos just went live. They weren't there last night.
Look for "Painting the Future"




Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Rick Lang on Jun 13, 2013 at 8:20:18 pm

Thanks, Joseph. That worked with my registered developer account. If I say anything more, I'll have to shoot myself!

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Craig Seeman on Jun 13, 2013 at 12:52:07 am

I have access to today's conferences/workshops but I'm not seeing that presentation (I have dev access).




Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Walter Soyka on Jun 13, 2013 at 1:52:05 am

[Jeremy Garchow] "Does anyone know what was presented today? I'd be curious to know what was going on with the new hardware."

From what I've heard, they showed MARI running for the first time on Macs.

Now I know I've been all "Dual CPUs are MANDATORY for 3D," but the new Mac Pro is perfect for texture painting, where the most important thing is getting textures from disk to the graphics card and back. Dual GPUs with tons of VRAM, and flash storage? It's practically purpose-built for this use case.

Walter Soyka
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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 13, 2013 at 2:53:50 am

[Walter Soyka] " It's practically purpose-built for this use case."

Oh, come on.

Apple hates texture painters.


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Paul Dickin on Jun 13, 2013 at 6:54:45 pm

Hi
Pixar have just announced that the video "Painting the Future" is now on Apple's dev site:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17419555&postcount=47

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/
http://www.pixarpost.com/2013/06/pixar-to-conduct-special-lunchtime.html




Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Charlie Austin on Jun 13, 2013 at 7:43:20 pm

[Paul Dickin] "Pixar have just announced that the video "Painting the Future" is now on Apple's dev site:"

Just watched it. Mari is pretty uh... crazy. And the Pixar artist and the developer seemed genuinely excited about the hardware. Also, it didn't crash. :-)

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Steve Connor on Jun 13, 2013 at 7:58:01 pm

[Charlie Austin] "Just watched it. Mari is pretty uh... crazy. And the Pixar artist and the developer seemed genuinely excited about the hardware. Also, it didn't crash. :-)"

I obviously have nothing to compare it to as i don't know Mari, but the MacPro looked like it was handling those vast amounts of data with ease.

The Pixar artist said it was the fastest he had seen Mari running, and this is on a port from Linux they started 6 weeks ago!

Steve Connor

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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Walter Soyka on Jun 13, 2013 at 8:10:33 pm

[Steve Connor] "The Pixar artist said it was the fastest he had seen Mari running,"

The new Mac Pro offers great hardware for this. Fast powerful GPUs with loads of VRAM, and fast flash mass storage. Moving data on and off the cards and "disk" should be super fast, and manipulating the 3D models via OpenGL on workstation-class GPUs should be smooth.

You could configure a Linux or Windows workstation similarly, but the Mac Pro will be ideal for this out of the box.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Jeremy Garchow on Jun 14, 2013 at 1:38:38 am

Nice work, team. I got through with your help.

I'm not sure if that was a hardware demo, so much as a really cool demo for Mari.

The size of the new MacPro is absolutely shocking.

They are going to sell boatloads of JetPacPros.

Thanks again,

Jeremy


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Paul Dickin on Jun 14, 2013 at 9:38:45 am

Hi
Here's the direct link to the web page summary of the presentation:
http://www.pixarpost.com/2013/06/pixars-speech-at-apple-wwdc.html

From the video:
"You're going to be wanting to process huge amounts of data on one device (GPU) while you're displaying it fluidly at 60fps on a second."

Put another way:
You're going to be wanting to process A on one device while you're doing B on a second.
Where A = Decoding/compositing/rendering etc etc
and B = Displaying/running fancy GUI animations - scopes etc/playing the timeline/encoding/exporting etc etc
And with the CPU there are three+ devices.
Seems like a whole lot of that goes on in editing or running Motion ;-)




Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso - video link.
by Walter Soyka on Jun 14, 2013 at 1:05:03 pm

[Paul Dickin] "Put another way:
You're going to be wanting to process A on one device while you're doing B on a second.
Where A = Decoding/compositing/rendering etc etc
and B = Displaying/running fancy GUI animations - scopes etc/playing the timeline/encoding/exporting etc etc
And with the CPU there are three+ devices.
Seems like a whole lot of that goes on in editing or running Motion ;-)"


What MARI is doing with the hardware is technically quite different than what FCPX/M5 does -- but the point about distributing tasks over multiple CPU cores and GPUs stands.

The entire industry has been moving to multiple CPU cores and even multiple GPUs for years, and Apple has been playing catch-up here for a while -- but credit where it is due. In typical Apple style, they're making a bit of a leap-frog jump and re-defining the platform by shipping multiple GPUs, standard. This is a big deal.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by Mathieu Ghekiere on Jun 16, 2013 at 7:19:01 am

Hi Jeremy,

I found it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kuAsOyzawNY


Re: Pixar or Foundry WWDC preso?
by David Eaks on Jun 16, 2013 at 7:29:14 am

Nice find, one of my favorite parts of that video starts about 43:20.... "We didn't know what it looked like either" and so on. LOL

Its a pretty good watch all around though.





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