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Michael Crochetiere
Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 14, 2019 at 3:38:19 pm

Hello,

I'm still running FCP7 on OS 10.11.6. I recently lost a few thousand media files on my external hard drive (and on the back up drive). Long story. I used Disk Drill to recover the lost files. They seem to preview well. All good.

But many are reconstructed with generic names (like file 12345.aif). Moreover, some files (like six different wind SFX) will be almost impossible to identify via sound. Is there a way to identify the files another way, say by size. If so, how would I export a list of the missing files from FCP with their sizes? Is there another practical solution?

Thanks!

Miko


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Shane Ross
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 15, 2019 at 5:16:32 pm

FCP looks at four bits of metadata to link to the files. Clip name, timecode, duration, reel number. If your files lack any of those, relinking won't be able to happen. You'll have to re-import and then manually cut into the sequence. I hope you have a recent output in which to see what is what.

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Michael Crochetiere
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 15, 2019 at 10:25:27 pm

Thanks Shane.


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Nick Meyers
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 20, 2019 at 2:20:13 am

FCP primarily looks to file names to reconnect
after that if tc, reel, duration, or number of tracks don't match you get a warning , but have the option of trying to reconnect.

if all your file names have changed thats a bit of a problem!

if you've managed to retain tc and reel# you could things semi-manualy, but it would take some time & effort.

there is however an app from Video Toolshed called FCP Reconnect that will look beyond the file name and reconnect based on reel# and tc.

there's a god chance your audio files will have not very useful tc & reel#
they probably have no reel# and al have tc starting at zero,
so you my have to approach those manually
and number of tracks and duration are your only bet

there IS a file-size column in FCP,
BUT
once a file is offline, I'm pretty sure the file-size reads as zero, or rather has no value,
so duration is the go.

here's what i would do (be aware I'm very patient and persistent and ok spending a lot of time fixing problems !)

first locate all your audio only clips in your project / projects
use the browser search for this
oops- are al your clips i note browser? if some are in the timeline only, that could be a problem,
you might have to "create Master clip" to find them.

search - all projects if more than one project is involved
type contains clip
omit tracks contains V

this should bring up all your audio only clips.
copy them all into a new project

maybe get rid of any clips that DO have reel# & TC, as FCP reconnect can solve those.
so you're just left w your SXF & music

maybe separate the files with ONE track only from the stereo files into separate bins

NEXT
bring in the audio only files from the finder
get rid of any with Reel#s and tc, and similarly separate into one-track ad stereo

so you should have 4 bins:
offline mono
offline stereo
on-line mono
on-line stereo

do your offline and online bins contain the same number of clips?
maybe you have duplicates in your offline clips
they'd still have their names so that'd be easy enough to spot

now you'd sort your clips by duration (maybe longest to shortest)
i'd do the mono files first as there's probably less of them

sorted by duration bring all the on-line mono clips into new timeline
do the same for the off-line clips, layering them on top of the on-line ones

theres probably be a bit of shuffling to get them sorted
there will be many that have the same duration, but you'll have offline ones with descriptive names,
and online ons that you can hear, so after some time you should be able to line them all up.

once you're confidant you've got good matches, you'd go thru and copy the names of the offline clips to the on-line clips
i'd use a macro for this (i use QuickKeys for this sort of this al the time os it;s not big deal t me) Keyboard Maestro is a more modern one that may have less issues than hate rather old QuickKeys.

once you've done that, go to the bin that contains the newly re-names mono clips,
and choose Modify Menu > Rename > File to match Clip.

next do the same for the stereo clips - there's probably more s it will take longer

once you're done you will have sorted all the clips and renamed those uselessly named files of yours,
and in your original projects you should be able to reconnect.

it could be that you can't reliably tel with some of the clips/ files which ones are which,
in those instance i guess i would leave them out of the first round of renaming and deal with them on a more individual basis.

this will all take some time, and you might need to master some new skills ( the macro app)
but hopefully I've given you some ideas.
(Like you can see how it would be pretty easy to deal with the files that DO have reel# and TC)


all the best,
nick


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Michael Crochetiere
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 20, 2019 at 12:05:12 pm

Hi Nick,

Thanks for your thoughtful, detailed answer. I may ...have the files on another old 4 TB G-raid drive, with mainly a hardware vs. software problem.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893269-REG/G_Technology_0g02484_4TB_...

I've been told that my chances of recovering files with names, in their directories, are better on that drive. As you may know, data recovery (from the platters) is really pricey. About $900 in my case. They don't charge if the results aren't what I need. So I'm going to bite the bullet, pay the cash and see what happens. If this doesn't work, I'll go back to the original problem drive and have a good look at what you suggest.

And, of course, I'll be more careful with back ups in future (external drives, the cloud). I thought I was being careful. My main media drive seemed to be working fine. But I rarely checked my FCP projects, as I'm not actively editing. So I was backing up the empty folder / missing files problem. Live and learn.


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Nick Meyers
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 21, 2019 at 3:48:27 am

ok good luck Michael.

if it comes to it,
I've got macros for the renaming step i talked about, and QuicKeys has a 30 day free trial,
so i can help you out, if needed.

cheers,
nick


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Michael Crochetiere
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on Apr 30, 2019 at 9:10:44 pm

Hello ,

So I recovered my lost media (pricey). I tidied up my source media and I'm now trying to reconstruct my FCP projects with lots of problems. The media won't stay reconnected. And I'm getting error messages: (1) File attribute mismatch (box 1attached). I try again and it goes through (no conflicts). I reconnect the files. But when I close and reopen the project, I need to reconnect the same media again.

Problem 2: When I try to locate a video file, FCP looks for video files, but all the video files are greyed out (see box 2) I choose "all files", then all files are available and I can do the connection.

Finally, after I connect some files, I get this (box 3). I barely recognize the names, but they have nothing to do with the few files I've connected as far as I can tell).

Any help would be appreciated. I may need to get someone to visit in person to solve all this (Montreal).

Looking ahead, I'll have a much more robust back up plan. Then I'll retire my 2009 MBP and make the leap to FCP X.

Thanks in advance!

MC







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Nick Meyers
Re: Reconnecting recovered files
on May 1, 2019 at 12:54:07 am

hi Michael.

yes, reconnecting in FCP can be dicey ☹

have you verified the files, to see if they are OK?
try opening them in Quicktime?
not all, but some.
or make a new FCP project, and bring in a folder of files, (or all of them)
see how FCP reacts, if it likes the files or not,
close and open that new project, see what happens.



[Michael Crochetiere] "(1) File attribute mismatch (box 1attached). I try again and it goes through (no conflicts). I reconnect the files."

that's not necessarily such a serious error. they try again and it works thing is weird.
having to reconvert all over is terrible tho.



[Michael Crochetiere] "(box 3). I barely recognize the names, but they have nothing to do with the few files I've connected as far as I can tell). "

this warning is generally related to number of TRACKS.
i see tat file is a PSD, so the warning could be about the number of LAYERS
maybe you have a more than one version of the same PSDS?

this is a bad waning, and in my experience I've just had to over-cut those files again.
(i hate making files in the timeline independant, it means i can't match back to the browser, which is important to me).

good news is with a fair bit of work you may yet get your project up and running,
but it will take some patience, and some sweat.
bad news is there aren't that many FCP experts around theses days,
and even when there were there weren't too many people with the subtle expertise to wrangle this.

but it's not impossible !

(i'd volunteer, but I'm in Australia)


good luck,
nick


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