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Mel Matsuoka
Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 30, 2016 at 1:57:04 am

I just setup a new El Capitan based system (10.11.6) and am horrified to find that I can't seem to install FCS3 on it.

I disabled all available the install options except for FCP7 itself (I only need FCP7 for converting old projects to Premiere Pro), but the installation dialog always seems to hang when I click "Continue". Nothing I've tried--Cache cleaning, etc--seems to work to get the installer to continue.

For what it's worth, I'm installing from archived .dmg images of my original DVD install media.

Anyone here experience similar issues? Is there a workaround that doesn't involve maintaining a separate Yosemite partition just for FCP7?


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Don Greening
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 12:40:09 am

This might address your situation:

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1219237

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Robert Withers
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 1:09:56 am

I was last using FCP7 on Mountain Lion, OS 10.8.5, before I made the fatal switch to Premiere. It worked fine for me and colleagues under that OS. Sometimes it's necessary to keep a machine running under an earlier OS if you want to use an earlier software.

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Jim Scott
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 3:04:04 pm
Last Edited By Jim Scott on Aug 31, 2016 at 3:07:17 pm

I can't remember where I ran across this, but apparently because Rosetta is not supported in Mavericks and later, those OSs will not allow installation of FCS3. If you had upgraded your OS on a drive that already had FCS3 installed on it, it would have been available. Whether or not it would work well, or at all, is another story. But since you did a clean install to a non-Rosetta supporting OS, that new OS is preventing installation.



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Warren Eig
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 5:12:57 pm

FCS3 installed on Yosemite. Brand new SSD drive and clean install of 10.10.5.

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Mel Matsuoka
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 6:30:42 pm

The issue is not with Yosemite. The issue is with El Capitan.


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Mel Matsuoka
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 6:35:47 pm

[Jim Scott] "I can't remember where I ran across this, but apparently because Rosetta is not supported in Mavericks and later, those OSs will not allow installation of FCS3. If you had upgraded your OS on a drive that already had FCS3 installed on it, it would have been available. Whether or not it would work well, or at all, is another story. But since you did a clean install to a non-Rosetta supporting OS, that new OS is preventing installation.
"


I'm not sure what Rosetta has to do with any of this, since as far as I know, Final Cut Studio (3) is Intel only.

FCP7 installs and works just fine on Yosemite & Mavericks.


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Jim Scott
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 8:14:36 pm

As I said, I don't remember where I heard about the issue with Rosetta, FCS3, and newer OS installations. I was simply repeating it as a possible explanation for your problems. I am happy to be corrected on this.

Unfortunately, as many have repeated, FCS3 is essentially ancient software that was not designed to run on newer OSs, and as such will often be at least finicky, if not worse. I myself have a FCP7 installation on a disk that was upgraded to Yosemite, and one which will run, but is often unresponsive and unusable. As I also have Premiere Pro I have switched to using it as my main video editor because of my experiences with FCP. I wish I could still use FCP, but unfortunately that hasn't turned out to be an acceptable experience for me. You mileage may vary.



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Mel Matsuoka
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Aug 31, 2016 at 6:41:52 pm

[Robert Withers] "Sometimes it's necessary to keep a machine running under an earlier OS if you want to use an earlier software."

That's the harsh reality that I've come to assume at this point.

I'm gonna see how well FCP7 runs in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine running Yosemite. I really don't want to maintain a separate Yosemite partition just so that I can install & run FCP7, since I just need it to load old projects for exporting XMLs out of them.

If that doesn't work, I guess I'll create a temporary Yosemite partition just to install FCS3, and then use Migration Assistant to bring the installation over to the El Cap partition.


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Justine-Paula Robilliard
Re: Installing FCP7 on fresh install of El Capitan?
on Feb 26, 2019 at 1:04:06 pm

I know this is very late, but I think very important..

I needed to install final cut pro 6 or 7 on my 2013 retina macbook pro laptop...Of course it was using APFS, many many problems, but I finally was able to figure out the solution.

The solution was not elegant and took a total of 3 days, and much much swearing, but it worked, I have 2 partitions, the minimum number required, one is HFS and the other APFS...

This is very very important, you need to wipe the hard drive clean, format back to HFS [journaled extended] 1 partition, then reboot using the internet installer, DO NOT USE any boot USB, it will not work...

I was able through the internet take the laptop back to base install, Mavericks, which is not listed in the APP STORE, for some reason the internet installer which is very slow, on my connection took about 12 hours to install, used Mavericks.

Once I was able to log into Mavericks, I created a 2nd partition called it High Sierra, formatted to HFS [journaled extended]

I was able to install final cut pro, I needed to first install Rosetta off the Snow Leopard install disk. Then I opened the FCP launcher, and installed only FCP7, it installs compressor and qmaster, this is not optional...

Then after upgrades and such, rebooted holding down the option key after the chime, and was able through the internet launcher install High Sierra onto the 2nd partition.

I was worried that APFS would destroy the HFS Mavericks, as according to Apple info this is the case, it did not for me, so once I was able to log into High Sierra and updated High Sierra I installed FCPX.

So now I have 2 versions of final cut, 1-FCP7 on a partition called Mavericks, and 2-FCPX on a partition called High Sierra, both are 50% of the inbuilt hard drive and so far no errors!!!

At this point no plans to change, but will look into a 3rd partition on the High Sierra partition later if needed..


STEPS..
1-Wipe hard drive,
2-create a single partition formatted journaled extended
3-use the internet installer to install the OS suggested.
4-once installed and updated, create a 2nd partition, formatted to journaled extended
5-Install Final Cut Pro 6 or 7, you might need Rosetta from Snow Leopard
6- restart using command+r
7-install the suggested OS
8-upate and then install zipped or downloaded copy of fcp x

I tried to make a usb installer, but it did not work...your skills might be better than mine...


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