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Andrew Harman
Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Mar 24, 2011 at 12:02:56 am

I have made the slideshow from stills. Made them all 1920x1080 pixels - so all images the same. it is made up of real photos and architectural renders. Again, all the same size.
Weird thing is, the renders, especially on the diagonal angles appear semi bitmapped where the photos, all look great.

Why the difference?

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Zane Barker
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Mar 24, 2011 at 12:27:53 am

What are your time line settings?

**Hindsight is always 1080p**


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Jeff Greenberg
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Mar 24, 2011 at 4:20:07 pm

What Zane is alluding to, is that your timeline codec will compress your stills when rendered. Depending on the timeline settings, they could look better. Try switching the timeline to ProRes and see if it takes care of the artifacts (at all.)

Also, you should really evaluate the quality on a broadcast monitor, not your FCP preview screen (or Digital Cinema Desktop, unless it's set to Raw)

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Chris Tompkins
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Mar 25, 2011 at 12:02:44 pm

What format are the Drawing in?
Thin lines are usually a challenge.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 4, 2011 at 1:04:44 am

The Renders are supplied as hi-res Tiffs. we have used this renders (they are effectively pictures as are photo real) in the glossy brochures.

I realised that i posted this in the FCP section. I am using a different program to generate the video file slideshow so there is not timeline to mention.

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Chris Tompkins
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 4, 2011 at 11:16:19 am

Sometimes I find hi-rez files don't do as well. Can you set the DPI of the stills down to 72 b/4 import and see how they look?

What codec is your sequence?

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Chris Tompkins
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 4, 2011 at 11:22:42 am

Walter has psoted a tutorial here on the cow on working with stills, don't know if it relates to your issue a whole lot but might be worth taking a look @ if you haven't:

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/200/892118

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:27:52 pm

i had made all the pics 72 dpi and 1980x1020 before importing.

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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:29:46 pm

codec is H.264

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Rafael Amador
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 4, 2011 at 12:40:35 pm

[Andrew Harman] "The Renders are supplied as hi-res Tiffs. we have used this renders (they are effectively pictures as are photo real) in the glossy brochures."
Which is your Sequence codec and your Render setting?
Set Prores and "Render in High Precision" and "Render Motion Effects: BEST".
rafael

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Chris Tompkins
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:31:40 pm

NEVER edit in H.264
Did you change your settings to ProRes as suggested here?

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:33:19 pm

There is no pro-res setting in this program.

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Chris Tompkins
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:35:43 pm

You posted your question in a FCP forum.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:37:41 pm

Yes, i stated above that i realised in the wrong section.

The Renders are supplied as hi-res Tiffs. we have used this renders (they are effectively pictures as are photo real) in the glossy brochures.

I realised that i posted this in the FCP section. I am using a different program to generate the video file slideshow so there is not timeline to mention.


Thanks All


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Zane Barker
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:39:33 pm

[Andrew Harman] "The Renders are supplied as hi-res Tiffs."

Tiffs are image files so they cannot be rendered video files.

**Hindsight is always 1080p**


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Andrew Harman
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:44:58 pm

that is correct. the tiffs are converted to jpg's and then used to make the slideshow which was output as a video file.

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Zane Barker
Re: Renders look worse than Pics at same size?
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:37:45 pm

[Chris Tompkins] "Did you change your settings to ProRes as suggested here?"

Chris, Andrew said this earlier.

[Andrew Harman] "I realised that i posted this in the FCP section. I am using a different program to generate the video"

Considering he is NOT using FCP and has NOT said what program he is using.

NOBODY here can help him because we don't know what program he is using. And even if we did know there is a good chance we may not be able to help because we may not know that program.

Why the question was even posted on a FCP forum I have no Idea.

**Hindsight is always 1080p**


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