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nefin dinc
burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 11:45:14 am

Hello,

I just edited a new sequence on FCP 7.
When I check the item properties it says it is 720 x 576 - 25 fps.
It matches with the system settings.

When I export the video as H264 and view it with QT or VLC it always shows it in a box all around.
On the timeline of FCP the video is not in a box.

I suspect it has something to do with perhaps the video on the timeline being anamorphic.

Do you have any ideas of how to solve this problem?

I am trying to burn a DVD out of this timeline.
And when I burn a DVD directly from fcp without using conversion but compressor, it still burns it in a box.

Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

Nefin.


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Roger Poole
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 2:23:38 pm

Why export to H264. Export QT movie without conversion, DV PAL in this instance, then make your DVD from that. If your footage is anamorphic don't forget to set that when building the DVD.


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 2:33:42 pm

My problem is that, I am not sure if my footage on the timeline is anamorphic.

The post-prod. company gave me this footage months ago and I just placed it on the timeline.

When I try to export it, I cannot find a proper way to export it the way it looks on the timeline.

It is either stretched from the sides, or placed in a box overall.

No matter what I do, ı cannot get rid of the black box...

I tried DV PAL now, same result...


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Roger Poole
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 3:42:20 pm
Last Edited By Roger Poole on Oct 29, 2015 at 3:46:23 pm

Ok, in the FCP browser select one of your clips, right click, then from the drop down menu choose "Format". You will see all the info about the raw clip. My guess is that it's a non standard frame size and you didn't set up your sequence manually. Instead dropped a clip into the timeline and said yes when you were asked if you wish to set the sequence to match your footage. Take a look at your sequence settings and see if they agree with the settings displayed in the browser and what you assumed the frame size of the imported clips were.


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 3:47:44 pm

On the timeline, when ı check the format, it is 720 x 576. 25 FPS. PAL

When I check Audio/Video Settings - Sequence Presets - they are the same.

I check Easy Setup, it is the same as well...


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Roger Poole
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 4:09:41 pm

In sequence settings, is anamorphic checked or unchecked.


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 29, 2015 at 10:28:23 pm

"My problem is that, I am not sure if my footage on the timeline is anamorphic"

that is a problem!

looking at the canvas, is it the shape of an old fashioned tv, (square-ish)
or the shape of a new tv (more rectangular)

DV PAL, by its nature is the squair-sh 4/3 ratio
but a wider image can be compressed within that ratio,
then the screen stretched back out to present a more rectangular 16/9 ratio.

the most likely bet is your frame is 4/3
if so, does the image look compressed, squished up?
do people look tall and skinny?

then your footage was shot anamorphic, but is now displaying as 4/3


if you could upload some screen shots of your footage in FCP,
and the quicktime file you've made,
it would be a lot easier o figure out what the problem is.


nick


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Michael Gissing
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 4:43:59 am

720 x 576 is correct SD PAL frame size. If your pictures are 4:3 then the anamorphic flag in the sequence should be off.

If your sequence is 16:9 then you still make the DVD as 720 x 576 as this is the only setting for a DVD. Your sequence settings will be anamorphic and not letterboxed.

Don't go anywhere near DV codec unless that is your original format. Also avoid H264 as that has no place in DVD. I recommend you export a self contained quicktime using current settings so it matches the codec of you content and sequence. Take that into Compressor to create the m2v file that is DVD standard.

When authoring the DVD In DVDStudio Pro, you have to set the aspect ratio to either 4:3 or 16:9 so you need to know what your sequence is


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 11:58:49 am

Here are the screen shots.

1. This is how the image looks like on canvas. It is not stretched or squished. This is how I want it to look on a DVD.



2. This is how item properties - format look of the timeline.



3. When I export is as QT with Current Settings and Anamorphic was checked under Sequence Presets, this is how it looks when I play it with QT Player.



4. And anamorphic is checked.



Can you guess what the problem is?

Thank you!


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:19:08 pm

the clip is NOT anamorphic,
it is letter-boxed 4/3
so you shouldn't be exporting as anamorphic

BUT
almost NO-ONE has a 4/3 TV anymore,
almost everyone watches 16/9 TV now,
so the only way to show your 4/3 film on a 16/9 TV is PILLAR BOXED, which means bars left and right
and seeing as how your image is already LETTER BOXED, (bars top and bottom)
then your DVD will most likely be seen as you show us, black all around (POSTAGE STAMP)

what you could possibly do is to blow the image up to fill the whole frame,
but you have subtitles. are they burt into the DV?
then if you blow up the image, you lose the subs.

i don't quite understand why your quicktime file is showing the clip pillar-boxed
that doesn't make sense to me.


nick


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:24:20 pm

I want to keep the subtitles underneath, that why I cannot blow it up.

I think what ı need to find out is why each time ı export it, and no matter which player I use (QT, VLC etc.) it is always in a box...


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:38:38 pm

OK, that last screenshot is NOT of your sequence's settings.
it is the sequence preset editor in the A/V settings.
that has nothing to do with your current sequence.

if that first screen-grab is really your canvas (and not your viewer),
then your current sequence settings are NOT anamorphic.

is that really the canvas?
have you created a sequence and edited that clip into it,
or are you just looking at the clip in the viewer?

create a new sequence, edit the clip into it,
you should get a window asking if you want the sequence to match the clip,
say YES

do your editing, and export using the default "Same Settings"
if your clip doesn't need any editing, the you don't need to take it though FCP anyway,
just take it directly into Compressor.

are you adding the subtitles in the timeline, or are they on the clip?


nick


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:56:51 pm

ok, i think i see.

the clip is letterboxed with french subs in the black area.
you are adding turkish subs in FCP.
i suspect you are working in an anamorphic timeline, and your clip is postage stamped in the canvas.

do you need the french subs on the final DVD?
you could blow the clip up and remove them,
leaving just the turkish subs.


nick


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 1:00:23 pm

I need the French subtitles...


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 1:09:45 pm

ok, but how about your actual sequence settings?

with the timeline active, go to the Sequence Menu and choose Settings,
OR
right click on the sequence in the Browser, and choose Settings.

when that window opens, is "Anamorphic" ticked?


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 1:13:54 pm

right now, it is not ticked.


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 1:20:42 pm

can you post a screen-grab of your sequence settings.
or report more on them?

the quicktime grab you posted was closer to HD size (1920x1080)
maybe you are cutting in an HD sequence.


nick


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Roger Poole
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Oct 30, 2015 at 11:37:40 pm
Last Edited By Roger Poole on Oct 31, 2015 at 6:54:49 pm

Nick, you are doing a great job here.
Nefin, in item properties it lists the creator as Blu ray player. Is this an hd Blu ray rip? If so, how did it end up dv pal.


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 1, 2015 at 5:21:04 pm

Yes Nick, thank you!
The original film was on DigiBeta and the post-prod. company transferred it on an external hard disk.
Maybe that's when something went wrong..
Do you know what I can do at this point?


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 1, 2015 at 9:03:43 pm

there doesn't seem to be too much wrong with the original, except that the subtitles are burnt in.
if the source had been a DVD, that may have been fixable, but with DIgibeta...

you still haven shown us your current sequence settings
i think that what's gone "wrong" is that you are working in an HD sequence.

look at your current sequence's settings, and report back.
a screen grab would be best.

also, can i ask what it is you are planing on delivering?


nick


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 9, 2015 at 9:51:57 pm

Hello,

The current settings' screen shot was attached somewhere above, in one of my previous posts. Can you see it? If not, I will send it again.

This film will be shown at a movie theater in France and I am trying to good quality DVD or digital file to send to them.

Thank you!


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 9, 2015 at 10:01:33 pm

no what you posted was a screen grab from your A/V settings window,

we need to see the sequences settings of the actual sequence you are working in.
right click on the sequence in the browser, and choose "settings"
OR
with that sequence in the timeline, and the timeline active, hit Command Zero (top row , not the number pas)


nick


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 9, 2015 at 10:12:02 pm

no what you posted was a screen grab from your A/V settings window,

we need to see the sequences settings of the actual sequence you are working in.
right click on the sequence in the browser, and choose "settings"
OR
with that sequence in the timeline, and the timeline active, hit Command Zero (top row , not the number pad)

DONT send a DVD!
i mean Standard deff will be low quality enough,
no need to make it worse by compressing to a DVD!
if your source is DV, and you are doing a lot of subtitling work,
i'd suggest working in a ProRes422 sequence, as your text will look a lot better.


nick


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 11, 2015 at 11:10:00 am

Here are the sequence settings



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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 10, 2015 at 10:11:24 pm

unfortunately the movie theatre wants a DVD.

I asked them if ı was able to send a digital file but they said no...

ı will send you the screen shot of the timeline setting tomorrow.

hopefully we'll be able to fix this problem.

they want a DVD by this Saturday...


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Christopher McDonell
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 11, 2015 at 7:15:08 am

I see you're getting a lot of help from people here so I won't interfere too much :). I wouldn't confine yourself to a square (5:4) format though, especially when the source footage appears to be 16:9. You could make this HD instead of SD and your viewers will thank you for it.

Would you consider putting the French subtitles at the top of the screen? I've seen that done before. Anything to keep all of the content within a 16:9 frame.

Could you deliver the project as a Blu-ray to the theatre? I've even brought my own player in some instances. Interlaced SD footage on the big screen is not pretty. If they'd accept Blu-Ray, you could master a 1080p, and assuming you'll have web versions, you won't be sending an already HD project back in time...

(To achiever this, If your master footage is in fact 720 x 576, you'd have to crop the top and bottom black bars and up convert to 1080p.)


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Nick Meyers
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 12, 2015 at 6:49:15 am

those sequence settings are correct, so you shouldn't be having any weirdness when you export,
maybe you did something odd with your previous export?

try a simple test export or a second or so of the timeline (use in and out points)
with your export DONT change any of the settings,
leave it at the default "same strings" or "Current settings" (Cant remember which one it is)

see how it looks.

how does it look in the canvas, by the way?
the same as the viewer?

nick


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nefin dinc
Re: burning a DVD without strech or in a box
on Nov 18, 2015 at 8:06:29 am

Dear all,

Pressed my time, we ended up putting the french subtitles at the top of the screen and cropping the export to 16:9, as suggested by Christopher.

Thank you very much for your help !


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