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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:55:59 am

Hello,

I'm not getting any realtime timecode at my capture bin when i try and capture using Aja I/O Express. The I/O Express is sending an SDI feed with timecode.

I have also set my capture settings to ProRess 422.

Does anybody know why the timecode doesn't appear? My boss says its something to do with the FCP 7.


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 3:29:18 pm

FCP isn't the issue. You just need to make sure that the CONTROL PANEL for the IO, in the TIMECODE area, is set to read the timecode from the SDI connection, rather than the RS-422 connection, that it defaults to. I'd show you a picture, but since I don't have the IO connected at this time (it's in the home office), I don't have all the options available.

Shane
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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 3:38:02 pm

Hye Shane.

I can see the timecode reading from the SDI connection.

That is the weird thing, when i look at the AJA Control Panel it's there. But when i open my log & capture window, it does not display the timecode.

Could this possibly have anything to do with me upgrading the laptop from Mountain Lion to Mavericks?


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 4:20:32 pm

That could be an issue, as FCP isn't technically supported by Mavericks. I'll have to test this when I get home. Although I don't think I have anything that sends TC out through the SDI. The tape deck I have does it through RS-422.

What are you capturing from that has TC in the SDI?

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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 4:31:17 pm

Shane, i don't know if this answers your last question, but i'm capturing from a feed that has been shared to EVS & AJA KIPRO devices. Direct source would be from the main switcher. This is for an MCP LIVE RECORDING setup.


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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 4:39:30 pm

Shane, im not sure if this answers your last question, but i'm capturing from an SDI feed that has been shared through EVS & AJA KI PRO devices.

I want to capture a particular camera ISO into the FCP using Aja IO.

Direct source would be from the main switcher. This is for a MCP LIVE RECORDING setup.


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 6:41:42 pm

How far are you from the source? There have been reported issues in the past with long runs and AJA devices – solved by dropping a DA in the line.

Are you using Capture Now? If so, FCP 7 will just pick up at 00:00:00:00. There is a Kluge solution for this.

Next question after that – have you called AJA to ask them?

Shane
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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 13, 2014 at 4:42:35 pm

Hye Shane,

There is a bit of distance from the source of the SDI cable. Haven't tried dropping in DA.

Also, you were right about Capture Now. It doesn't show realtime timecode, instead captures from 00:00:00:00.

By the way, how does dropping in DA help?


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Tom Meegan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 6:46:54 pm

If you are doing a Capture Now to FCP7, embedded time code will not come along for the ride.

This device is a starting point for a work around:

http://www.adrielec.com/fcs/

Or you can modify the time code after capture to match the source.

Best,

Tom Meegan
Woven Pixels, LLC


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 12, 2014 at 6:52:06 pm

I cheated. My last post was all quoted from Tom here. I asked for his help on this, as he does this sort of work for a living. HE'S THE MAN in this case...

Shane
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Shivadas M. Narayinan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 13, 2014 at 4:46:15 pm

Hye Shane & Tom,

The distance is quite far from the source of the SDI cable. Also you were right about the Capture Now issue, it does only take from 00:00:00:00.

May i know how does dropping in the DA help?


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Tom Meegan
Re: Final Cut Pro 7 No Timecode Available While Capturing With AJA I/O Express
on Aug 13, 2014 at 6:15:50 pm

I don't think the DA will help with your problem. I was brainstorming solutions with Shane when I tossed that one out – It solved a problem for me when I was using another AJA product to capture live video, but I don't think that solution is relevant here.

I suggest you look into the Adrienne Electronics product I linked to above if time code is a necessity.

Alternatively, use the modify time code command after the fact to match the code to the source.

Another solution would be to talk to the EVS operator(s) on location about streaming files to a folder you can share. This is a much more elegant solution, but requires some know how.

If you don't have success and need more help hit me with an email

tom at wovenpixels dot com

and I'll try to connect you with an EVS/NLE guru who will be able to look at your whole set up and find the best solution for your needs.

Best,

Tom Meegan
Woven Pixels, LLC


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