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Advanced Spectrum
How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 4:52:47 pm

I have a video (see below) where at the 0:20 sec mark the camera is slowly panning to the left, the head of a man standing is slowly turning to the left and in the last second he winks.
I need to remove the wink and replace it with his non-winking eye from several frame ago.








Between 1:25 and 1:30 I need to clean up the BBQ stained wall. Again, how to best do this?
I want to use Final Cut Pro X to do this. I would appreciate your replies. Thanks.


Adam


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John Fishback
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 5:04:45 pm

Checkout CoreMelt's Slice X. It should be able to do what you want.

John

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Advanced Spectrum
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 5:11:17 pm

This is a great pointer John! Any tools or techniques available within FCP X so I don't have to purchase this plug-in?


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Steve Eisen
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 5:42:17 pm

You never said you were looking for free. A lot of people worked very hard to create effects that can cover up video.

I would cut just before the wink.

That BBQ stained wall is going to need some serious rotoscoping. FCPX can not do that. As a shooter, I would have seen the stained wall and cleaned it before I shot. I'm gonna guess a re-shoot is not possible.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
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Advanced Spectrum
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 5:52:03 pm

With due respect Steve, I never wanted anything for free. I own a licensed copy of FCP X and wanted to know if the fixes could be applied using it own tools rather than buying something else which of course might be the option I have to take if nothing else works.

Rshoot is not possible. I am just the editor. I was not involved with the shooting project.


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Shane Ross
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 5:57:01 pm

This isn't something you can accomplish in FCX...not convincingly.

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Steve Eisen
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 6:21:23 pm

Thanks for supporting me and the clarification Shane

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Vice President
Chicago Creative Pro Users Group


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Advanced Spectrum
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 4, 2013 at 6:24:44 pm

OK great. Thanks you all. I will pass this project on to someone else.


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Nick Meyers
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 12:13:17 am

sorry, i haven't looked at the video,
but a blink replacement would take about 5-10 minutes to do in FCP7

if the head is turning it's harder and may not be possible.
a WINK is not blink, and may not be possible as the face scrunches up too much.

my process is:

take the last good frame of the eye before,
make a freeze, put it on V2
track the eye to the head by turning freeze to difference mode, and key framing,
use an eyebrow, say to track.

do the same with the first good frame of the eye after the blink.
put it on V3
do an dissolve between the two freezes, from the before-blink to the after-blink frames.
usually i do an opacity keyframe rather than a dissolve.

over this same duration dupe the V1 section on to V4
use an 8-point garbage matte around the eye area. (generally looks like a Zoro mask!)



nick


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Steve Eisen
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 1:17:42 am

The wink isn't the problem!

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Vice President
Chicago Creative Pro Users Group


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John Fishback
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 1:27:50 am

You might also do this in Motion. The eye is the challenge. The wall can be handled with a tracked matte, although, there's some rotoscoping to be done with the person standing in front of it.

John

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Mark Suszko
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 1:55:08 pm

Wouldn't this be better answered in the FCP-X forum, overall? Though I would say you could probably do the track matte to cover the wall using Apple Motion, as well as AfterEffects.


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Advanced Spectrum
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 2:14:13 pm

Thank you all for your replies. I had to pass on this project. I don't have the right tools and skills yet for this.


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Samuel Enblom
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 6, 2013 at 10:01:07 am

I understand you decision, it was probably for the better.

Just to put up an idea, would it have been enough to mask out the stain and blur it? With a nice feather it could atleast ease the "eye-pain" your customer is experiencing.


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Nick Meyers
Re: How to edit this scence?
on Nov 5, 2013 at 2:18:47 pm

re the wink.

you cant comp that out, well you can try, but it wont fix the problem as he's still screwing his fce up.
use another part of the shot.


re the wall stain shot:

the second, closer shots has smoke in the fg, so that puts it in the very hard category,
you have to either match the smoke,
or remove it & replace it.
but if it goes over the people, too, that's really hard.

but it's a short shot, and we're not looking at that area (once it's cleaned up, which i agree it needs to be!)
so you might get away with it.

if you haven't done this sort of thing before, it;l take you some time, and may not look too good.


nick


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