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xavier pilsudksi
adjusting audio levels
on Oct 17, 2013 at 7:36:53 pm

I have 40 clips or so in the timeline.
They all have different levels.
Is there a way to set all of them so the audio meter is at -12bd during playback?

I am not asking to set the level at -12db for each (in that case I'd copy/paste attributes). Because a clip level might be set at 9db but playback at -10db in the timeline when another one can be at 0db in the Viewer and also playback at -12 in the TL.

Thx


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Shane Ross
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 17, 2013 at 8:05:48 pm

You are going to do what the rest of us editors do...a just the levels clip by clip. Manually adjust things until the levels and mix are right. This is a basic editing task, and there is no easy button.

You'd be amazed how many broadcast TV editors don't do this. This is why many productions with multiple editors have a lead editor...they are they ones that go in and adjust all the audio levels to make them uniform, among other things.

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xavier pilsudksi
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:27:12 pm

yeah that's what I"ve been doing since I"m part of your "us editors" :-)

Do you know if other NLE systems offer this feature, just out of curiosity?


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Shane Ross
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:36:15 pm

Not that I'm aware of. I mix my own audio in FCP, Avid and Adobe PPro.

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Michael Gissing
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 18, 2013 at 3:30:17 am

Even if people choose to normailse to a set level like -12db that certainly doesn't mean a mix is going to sound right or that clips will sound as loud as each other. There is a whole art to setting dynamics & EQ to get matching levels. Peak metering is not a good guide to loudness


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xavier pilsudksi
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 18, 2013 at 4:45:38 am

You're absolutely right. And this is why we always send our spots to a post-house and this is why they charge $$$$.... because as you said it is an "art".
My question was to help me in the bay to get decent levels while working on a rough cut.
I'll keep adjusting the clips as I put them in the TL.

Thanks Shane. I always value your input/answers


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Nick Meyers
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 18, 2013 at 8:07:01 am

you probably know, but there are shortcuts to adjust levels of timeline clips.

if you have a clip selected, or are parked on it,
Control + / - (top row) will raise / lower by 1db.
Control [ / ] just underneath those keys will raise / lower by 3db

i've created my own versions which are similar, but better, IMO

Control + / - (NUMBER-PAD) for raise / lower 1db
Control Option + / - (NUMBER-PAD) for raise / lower 3db


if you have a control surface it could make things faster.
it doesn't make FCP halt while you use it, for example.
if you have "Record Audio Keyframes" turned OFF,
then you are simply setting an overall level for each clip.


of course if you every re-edit the clip into the timeline it wont have those levels.



nick


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xavier pilsudksi
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 18, 2013 at 4:15:10 pm

Ctrl ] and [ are 2 of my most frequently used shortcuts actually.
Thnx Nick for the suggestions


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Shane Ross
Re: adjusting audio levels
on Oct 18, 2013 at 1:03:27 pm

There have been many times that my mix is THE mix. But even when it isn't, for the work I do, we still have to have fairly consistent levels for screenings with my producers and the network. But I have also mixed shows in FCP for air...quite often. And it's clip by clip, methodical. Even pro sound mixers go clip by clip...it's how it's done.

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