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Sascha Engel
Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 6:02:01 am

Hi Everybody,

I know, it's not the right forum probably, but I don't know where else to post it and
I need a quick answer: What is the way to go, the Dell U2410 or the Dell U2412M.
the 2410 is more expansive, but according to Dell more color accurate.
Anybody can comment on those two monitors and if the higher price for the 2410 ist justified?

If I am in the wrong forum for this, please, excuse me and let me know in which one to post this Question.

Thanx.


Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Shane Ross
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 10:24:12 am

Color accuracy in a computer monitor only matters when it comes to print media, and that's if you use a calibration tool. It doesn't matter when using FCP Legacy, or Premiere, or Avid MC...as the PREVIEW and PROGRAM monitors in those apps themselves aren't color accurate. They aren't designed to be.

Shane
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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30:34 am

Thanx for the reply, Shane. (just realized if I switch the h and the a in your name, it makes a German word :-)
So, you are saying, that I should go for the cheaper solution, since the extra dollars spent won't be visible?

Another BIG question, which I am sure you can answer: I am intending to get a AJA T-Tap for external monitoring. Now, until I have the money for a good Broadcast monitor, e.g. FSI, I wonder, if I get a good computer monitor and connect it over the T-Tap and callibrate it accurate with e.g. the Spyder, will it also serve as a temporary broadcast monitor or it's inacceptable result?

Thanx a lot.

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Rafael Amador
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 12:39:14 pm

Is the old story, Sascha.
With a Dell you will go better than with a crappiest monitor, but you will never be able to adjust it properly even with an Spyder. Beside not matching the specs of a broadcast monitor, they have no the controls for fine tuning.
But again, will be helpful. My first "external monitor" was a SONY TV set.
You will have to learn the flaws of the monitor.


[Sascha Engel] "So, you are saying, that I should go for the cheaper solution, since the extra dollars spent won't be visible?"
I don't think Shane meant that.
There are tons of differences between both monitors.
In fact I think the only thing they have in common is the brand and size.
Beside, I guess, the quality of the components, they differ in color gamut, contrast ration, backlights, connexions..
There are lots of stuff on Googles comparing both devices:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1194180/dell-u2410-vs-dell-u2412m
rafael


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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01:06 pm

Thanx Raphael for the reply.
So, it might be even a better idea to connect my old Hitachi SD broadcast monitor to the T-Tap then?
It would work in theory?


Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Rafael Amador
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 3:06:37 pm

With a proper IO card, no problem.
The card will do the downscaling and change the color specs from Rec-709 (HD) to Rec-601 (SD).
The colors will be as accurate as the IO card.

With the T-Tap no idea. I guess the signal will be OK, but, who will take care of the HD to SD downscaling?
rafael


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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 4:30:38 pm

Thanx Raffa.
Do you know a card like the Aja T-Tap that can also down scale. What about the Blackmagic intensity ?
What would happen if I'd connect the SD Broadcast monitor to the T-Tap? I'd get a picture at all?

Thanx.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Shane Ross
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 6:23:44 pm

[Sascha Engel] "Do you know a card like the Aja T-Tap that can also down scale."

It can.

[Sascha Engel] "What about the Blackmagic intensity ?"

That I don't know. I have the Mini Monitor...and that will. Guessing the Intensity will.

[Sascha Engel] "What would happen if I'd connect the SD Broadcast monitor to the T-Tap? I'd get a picture at all?"

You'd need to go into the AJA Control Panel and set it to downconvert.

Shane
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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 18, 2013 at 6:53:41 pm

Thanx for the detailed abswer. So the big question for me still is: what is better, the T-Tap or the Blackmagic Intensity?
Anybody has an idea?
Thanx a lot.

Greetz,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Rafael Amador
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 19, 2013 at 10:56:16 am

[Sascha Engel] "what is better, the T-Tap or the Blackmagic Intensity?"
I think that you will have to take the one you can connect to your monitor.
If the Monitor plugs by SDI, the T-Tap is the one.
If the monitor has only analog input (Components, Composite, S-Video), the you will need an Infinity/Thunderbolt.
Rafael


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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 19, 2013 at 1:30:33 pm

Does the infinity have both SDi and analog connections?
The t-tap has only HDMI and SDI, no?
So I cannot connect the t-tap to an analog screen, e.g. SDI to S-video (that's the connection on my SD Broadcast monitor).
Thanx.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Rafael Amador
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 19, 2013 at 3:16:26 pm

You are right.
If your monitor connexion is S-Video, you need one of the Infinitys with Thunderbolt.
No way to connect the T-Tap unless SDI or HDMI IN.
rafael


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Sascha Engel
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 19, 2013 at 3:35:48 pm

But the infinity also has HDMI and SDI out, in case I want to connect later an HD monitor?


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Rafael Amador
Re: Dell U2410 versus U2412M
on Jun 20, 2013 at 3:14:51 am

HDMI, yes.
SDI, no.
Rafael


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