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Anne Davis
FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 22, 2013 at 9:49:59 pm

Editing Drive: External GTech 4TB GRaid (not a mirror raid)
Computer:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac12,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Boot ROM Version: IM121.0047.B1F
SMC Version (system): 1.72f1
Serial Number (system): D25FN56UDHJW
Hardware UUID: 9063BEF8-B03C-5579-B3FA-3C7C47C6A5E9

This problem has occurred in the past when I tried to resize the timeline but I've always been able to
reopen the project. This time I can't reopen it, even after unmounting and turning off the external drive, as well as turning off and then restarting the computer. I stand to lose a day of work (even if I can
remember all the editing decisions made) so I'm pretty desperate!

Thanks in advance for any help!


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Anne Davis
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 23, 2013 at 3:42:11 am

I've restored the FCP6 project from the autosave vault, as well as trashing and restoring my FCP Preferences for good measure.

I've isolated and deleted the corrupted clip (hopefully there are no others), but still have a question.

The corrupted clip came from a homemade DVD provided by one of the documentary's subjects. I used
Mac the Ripper to get the material off the DVD, and MPEG Streamclip to convert the clip to use in
Final Cut Pro. Is there an additional step to this process that I've missed?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 23, 2013 at 1:42:48 pm

It's hard to say with the information given.

If it's an SD clip about 2 seconds long, the image quality would be... well, passable, and you may have made a transcoding error.

If it's HD and 2 MINUTES long, it may be that you exported by reference -- i.e. NOT self-contained -- and the result is a file that is simply a set of pointers to the original media. FCP either can't find the original media, or the original media is no longer present.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Anne Davis
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 23, 2013 at 8:42:16 pm

It is an SD image and I am working on a HD project. I think my error may have been not knowing I needed to transcode the clip since I was able to import the video and audio files directly into FCP6 and placed the video and audio files directly into FCP6 and placed them on the DVCPro HD timeline (codec for the majority of the project).

I do have the video and audio files created by Mac the Ripper saved on a separate external drive.
Video is an .m2v file
Audio is an .AC3 file

If I were to open them in MPEG Streamclip (Version 1.9.2 free download), here are the export and
coversion options available to me:

Export to Quicktime
to DV
to AVI
to MPEG-4
Export Audio
Export to Other Formats
Export Frame
Convert to MPEG
Convert to MPEG with MP2 audio
Convert to Headed MPEG
Convert to TS

Any suggestions on the steps to take from here would be greatly appreciated!


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Dave LaRonde
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 23, 2013 at 9:01:16 pm

[Anne Davis] "...Export to Other Formats..."

Now, there's a nebulous term. I wonder what lies within?

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Anne Davis
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 23, 2013 at 10:38:35 pm

It's a settings window with a pulldown menu listing:
Quicktime
36
AIFF
FLC
iPod
Apple TV, etc.
(similar to the "Sharing" menus on iMovie or iDVD)
You can call out the codec and options on the Quicktime screen, but I think I would need
a link to detailed settings or a screenshot of the actual settings to use with FCP6.0.6 on a
DVCProHD timeline to transcode correctly and resolve this in a timely fashion.

I can live with the fact that it's a SD original and even with the different ratio, (it's a documentary
so archival footage surrounded by black is not a huge issue).

My main goal is to be keep in the clip in project, transcoded so as not to crash the project. I have
some deadlines coming up.

Thanks for your help, sorry the info is coming in dribs and drabs -- I'm just starting to understand
how I caused the problem.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 24, 2013 at 3:35:05 pm

You may have done this already, but I recommond using the Export To Quicktime setting, and then DO NOT RELY ON THE DEFAULT SETTING.

There should be many codec settings within it, and I would match the existing frame rate, H&V resolution and field order to the original, but use FCP's go-to codec, ProRes 422,

FCP will distort the footage when it's added to the edit timeline, but you can fix that on the first shot of the footage used, and then use the copy-Paste Attributes trick to fix the subsequent shots further down the timeline.

Oh, and make sure the frame rates match: you don't want 23.976 (aka 23.98) or 25 fps footage in a 29.97 timeline.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Anne Davis
Re: FCP 6 Project only 20mb file size but keeps crashing when try to open
on May 24, 2013 at 4:55:09 pm

Thanks for the help, I'm following up to:

"FCP will distort the footage when it's added to the edit timeline, but you can fix that on the first shot of the footage used, and then use the copy-Paste Attributes trick to fix the subsequent shots further down the timeline."

I don't quite get (or know the steps) how to fix the distortion on the first shot of the footage -- I have used
Paste Attributes, so I should be okay from there.


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