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jonathan young
Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 1:35:27 pm

I have a nice 1920X1080 title I made in FCP (white background with grey and maroon text) it is nice and crisp looking, when I copy that title into my 720X480 16:9 timeline (853X480) the title looks washed out and not crisp at all, is there a way I can fix this? the only reason I created the title in a 1920X1080 seq was because when I created the title in the 720X480 seq it looked washed out and not crisp. I am thinking it looks like this because it's a SD timeline and no matter what I do when bringing anything that's HD into a SD timeline it just will not look as good, am I right?

Thanks :-)


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Rafael Amador
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 3:51:08 pm

I guess you are editing on a DV sequence.
Change the sequence codec for something better (at least DVCPro50; Prores better).
Set the canvas to 100% size and render.
See if its looks better.
rafael


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jonathan young
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 4:11:31 pm

Yes, I forgot to mention that I am using a ProRes codec and not a DV codec and it still looks washed out, my seq compressor settings are ProRes and I am exporting the video with the ProRes compression through quicktime conversion.


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Shane Ross
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 4:26:32 pm

Titles done in HD, no matter how crisp the original looks, when put in an SD project, won't be as crisp. less resolution.

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jonathan young
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 8:00:31 pm

Ok, I thought I was correct, I had two of the same projects, one in HD and one in SD, the client wanted to know why the EXACT same title looked less crisp and sharp than the HD project, I told him it was because one was HD and one was SD, I originally created the SD tile in the 853X480 settings and it was looking washed out compared to the HD version so he asked if I could take the HD title and drop it into the SD project and the results were the same, but he still insist that I must be doing something wrong, I knew I was right when I told him no matter what I do the SD project text wise will never match the HD project quality wise. He then asked me to create the titles in after affects and bring them into FCP, I knew before I did it that it would not make a difference, but I did it anyway and same results. So know I think he wants me to do the both projects in Premiere Pro CS6, but as long as we are doing HD to SD even in Premiere Pro the quality in text will be the same correct?


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Neil Patience
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 7, 2013 at 11:02:57 pm

Hi Jonathan


just out of interest I tried to recreate your set up just to see what happened. FCP does not resize well so I would not put the HD caption into an SD timeline.
Additionally as the other guys have said - SD is never going to look as good. Your clients suggestion of creating in HD and putting that in SD is not going to improve things. If anything its the worst option, as I said it does not resize well.
Any SD pictures or captions are never going to look as good as HD no matter what software you use. Compared to each other HD is always going to look superior.

However I did some screen grabs of a grey and maroon caption on white and there was no huge change in levels. The SD created caption looked much better that the HD resized.

The 3 examples are below, as you can see the SD created caption is not that bad, certainly not as clean as the HD but pretty acceptable.
The HD in HD timeline is obviously the best.
The HD resized shows poor quality edges and is the worst by far.
Not huge level differences though - they were all grabbed at 100% otherwise as Raphael says they will not look good whatever you do.


This is HD caption in HD timeline


This is SD caption in SD timeline not resized


This is HD caption resized in SD timeline

If you click on them and look at them in the viewer its easier to see the differences in quality.

best wishes
Neil
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Rafael Amador
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 8, 2013 at 2:01:37 am

A couple of things:
- FC has THREE "Render Motion Effects" options. Have you selected "BEST"?
- Exporting to Prores (10b) by mean of "QT Conversion" makes no much sense. QT process only in 8b.
rafael


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jonathan young
Re: Question about HD title I made in FCP
on May 8, 2013 at 3:05:39 am

Yes motion render settings in FCP is set to BEST


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