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Harvey Malone
FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 11:59:03 am

I have a two minute teaser in FCP 7 23.98fps

Trying to burn to DVD to play in UK DVD players

I have Toast 7

I have Compressor 3.5.3

on a Macbook Pro OS 10.6.7 with Matshita Superdrive

I have DVD+R DVD's which I get an error early on in the burn in Toast and Disc Utility
I have DVD-R DVD's which hang up on 'processing' in Toast

I have managed to get Toast to burn a disc image and then burn the disc with Disc Utility. If I convert to PAL (within Toast) the DVD only plays the audio with no video. If I don't convert to PAL (within Toast) the disc can't be read on this player.

I know this is an annoying question but I'm desperate. These needed to go out days ago and I've been up all night with an editor wrangling my computer from afar.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 2:16:09 pm

Export the 23.976 (aka 23.98) timeline as a self-contained quicktime movie. Duplicate it for safety's sake.

Use Cinema tools to conform the duplicated file's frame rate to 25fps.

Open the converted file in Compressor, and create the necessary mpeg2 and ac3 files for DVD authoring.

Understand that by using this process, file has a faster frame rate than the original. A two-minute file will now run about a minutes 55 seconds long. It has the virtue of frame-for-frame correspondence, preserving maximum image quality.

If you need precisely two minutes, you can use Compressor to do a frame rate conversion using the originally-exported file. The quality will suffer a bit. Re:Vision's Twixtor will preserve more image quality, and it costs about $500. Hardware will do the best job, but it costs an arm and a leg.

Not sure about the project to be delivered, but DVD Studio Pro makes dandy NTSC DVD's at 23.976, and they play with no problems in PAL DVD players.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Nick Meyers
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 2:26:55 pm

1st question:
do you really need to convert to PAL?
most DVD players and TVs in PAL territories will play back NTSC, and have been able to do so for years.

2nd question.
why use Toast for format conversion?
that's what Compressor is for

the simplest, and probably best looking way to do this is to make a copy of your teaser,
open it in Cinema Tools, and CONFORM it to 25fps
then take that file, and make your DVD components in Compressor,
and create a DVD in DVDSP. (or Toast)

conforming gives the best motion as it's a frame-for frame conversion.
possible problem is the clip will play a bit fast

another option is to take you teaser, run it though compressor to do a standards conversion,
then put that back in compressor to make your DVD components, then make a DVD.

i suggest the two step process, as suspect trying to standards convert while making your mpeg files is asking for trouble.


nick


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Nick Meyers
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 2:28:49 pm

oops.
i took so long to reply that Dave beat me to it!

i'll add that Graeme Nattress makes a highly reccomended plug in for doing the standards conversions in FCP.
cheaper than Twixtor


nick


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Rafael Amador
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 2:52:24 pm

As Nick said, PAL DVD players can play NTSC DVDs.
The Hollywood movies DVDs distributed in Europe are NTSC.
No need to make any conversion.
rafael


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Nick Meyers
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 23, 2013 at 4:49:13 pm

[Rafael Amador] "The Hollywood movies DVDs distributed in Europe are NTSC"

that's not quite true,
Most Hollywood movies DVDs distributed in PAL territories are PAL
i base this on living in Australia, and buying a lot of DVDs locally and from the UK, and some from France & Germany.
plus there is the issue of region coding

however, it is not uncommon to see NTSC versions for sale in all these territories

the PAL versions are, almost universally, made by playing the source material at 25fps


nick


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Neal Boyle
Re: FCP 24fps to UK DVD playable... Save My Head From Exploding
on Apr 26, 2013 at 4:40:44 pm

Rafael is right, NTSC plays fine here in Europe on PAL equipment, just don't enable a Region Code.
Some clients want PAL and NTSC DVDs, no idea why, makes no difference but you get to charge a bit more.

Neal


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