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Steve Dagg
Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38:13 am

2 camera interview:

canon 5D + nikon d600
all footage transcoded to apple prores 422 HQ
sequence settings: 1920 by 1080 HDTV 1080i (16:9) - frame rate 23.98

synced with pluraleyes
exported quicktime movie (reference files) of cam 1 + cam 2
imported quicktime .mov files
made multiclip with pluraleyes

when i drag multiclip into timeline, RED render bar shows up. multiclip plays fine in viewer however..

can anyone help?! going a bit mad here.

thanks so much.

macbook pro 8 GB ram (using USB 3.0 external drive)


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Neil Patience
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 11, 2013 at 5:37:06 pm

Hi Steve

It sounds like your sequence settings do not match your source footage. I assume you have transcoded both cameras to the same ProRes codec and the same frame rate.
If you create a new sequence and just drop one of your camera clips into the sequence. It should ask if you want the sequence to match the source. Say Yes.

Drop a multi clip into that sequence and you should see a green render bar not a red one.

best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv


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Steve Dagg
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 11, 2013 at 9:59:46 pm

Hi Neil,

thanks so much for your reply.

i'm still having trouble. opening a new sequence doesn't do it. i tried that, and dropping in a clip it doesn't ask me to match settings. normal clips play just fine.

i also tried transcoding a couple of clips into 1920x1080 HDTV 1080i in mpeg streamclip (my original conversion was 1920x1080 unscaled) to match the sequence settings of 1920X1080 HDTV 1080i (16:9)

still doesn't work.

anything else i'm missing?


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Neil Patience
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 11, 2013 at 10:54:53 pm

Hi Steve

It sounds like you are using the correct workflow going from your DSLR footage to ProRes. So it should be a simple case of doing a ProRes HQ easy set-up and away you go.
Thats assuming both DSLR's were shooting at the same frame rate and frame size and are both now ProRes 422 HQ
If you drop one of your clips say from the Canon in the sequence is that just a grey bar ? No render at all ? Same for the Nikon ?

USB3 should easily be quick enough for 2 streams of ProRes HQ

Have you checked multi-clip playback under the RT drop down.

Finally here is Shane's DSLR workflow tutorial - might be worth a look but sounds like you have it pretty well correct.

http://library.creativecow.net/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/1

Hope something there helps

best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv


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Steve Dagg
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 12, 2013 at 12:33:48 am

hi again neil,

thank you for that link, i will have a look.

otherwise, i'm still having the same issue. all clips, from either camera, drop in the timeline just fine with no render needed.

i'm wondering if i'm making an error when i make the reference movie file, export it, then import those back in to make the multiclip.

the sequence settings match my footage, so i'm pretty stuck here!

still trying..

thanks again,
steve.


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Neil Patience
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 12, 2013 at 9:46:49 am

Hi Steve

Since both your ProRes files for each camera work without render then it does seem that your settings are correct.
I assume the reference files you mention are the Pluraeyes clips. It does seem that that is where your error is coming in since the individual files work fine.
I have not used Plraleyes on multi cam projects so I am slightly unsure of the best workflow there.
Perhaps someone who has done that can chime in and help out.

best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv


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Daniel Sametz
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 12, 2013 at 10:18:58 am

I don't think it's anything wrong. I have had red bars with multiclip made with 2 5D Mark II with the same settings, all
Converted to prores. I had red bars with my Mac Pro and grey with te newer iMac from work. So I would say that is something to do with the slower processors rather than with something wrong with your files.


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Neil Patience
Re: Multiclip needs Render!
on Jan 12, 2013 at 8:51:08 pm

What Daniel is suggesting is totally possible - I had assumed that your MacBook Pro was pretty up to day because you have USB3.

What is the spec of your MacPro ? One other thing - out of interest, if you simply take any two of your ProRes clips and just make a multi-clip from them (no ref movies or Pluraleyes etc) What happens then ? Red Bar or Green ?

best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv


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