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Tom Matthies
Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 5:16:38 pm

I have to update one of the older editing stations here (FCP 5.1) and since all of the other stations are running Final Cut Pro 7, I'd like to install it on the new station as well just to keep it simple for the editors. FCP X isn't an option. Is FCP7/Studio 3 available anywhere?

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Ryan Holmes
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 5:32:54 pm

eBay or Craigslist is probably your only options now.

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Tom Matthies
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 5:34:43 pm

Yeah, I'm seeing it on eBay but I need to get it from a "reputable" i.e. "retail" outlet. Corporate rules.
Any new old stock at a dealer?

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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 6:34:53 pm

A year and a half after Apple discontinued it...you'll be hard pressed to find it at a dealer. And the people on ebay and craigslist know that it is still in demand, so you won't see it for $500. It will be used, and going for $1000 or more.

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Ryan Holmes
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 6:48:05 pm

Exactly what Shane said. Since it's dead (as of June 2011) "retailers" don't stock it anymore. The excess supply that may have existed has dried up. So you're only looking at used copies.

If corporate purchases this it may be time to look at what's next - Avid, FCPX, or Adobe.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 6:58:01 pm

Dealers were actually ordered to return unsold copies of FCS 3 at the time X debuted. Apple phone order had some NIB ones for a time, you could try calling a Customer rep direct to see if there are any copies left but you are probably too late there. That said, I scored my home-use copy off ebay, and was quite happy.

You *could* dip a toe in the world of FCPX on this one workstation (if it's not too old to run it). X is significantly better now, versus when it was first released, and it may work okay for you depending on your needs. Right now it is very hard to beat the Adobe bundle and current Premiere/AE/PS combo. If I was starting from scratch, that would be my current choice.


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Ryan Holmes
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 7:06:03 pm

[Mark Suszko] "Right now it is very hard to beat the Adobe bundle and current Premiere/AE/PS combo. If I was starting from scratch, that would be my current choice."

+1 to this. Adobe is where I took my team once FCPX came out and we determined it wouldn't meet our needs. But as Mark notes, X has come quite a ways. Apple has been quite faithful in updating it. Additionally, Adobe offers a free 30-day trial of their software (for a time Apple was allowing people to demo X as well...not sure if that's still an option). We affectionately call Premiere Pro CS6 by it's pet name - Final Cut Pro 8. ;-)

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Tom Matthies
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 8:11:44 pm

If this was a start up, Premiere or Avid would make sense. Unfortunately, this is simply an upgrade to one of the older edit stations here. New computer to replace an older G5 running FCP 5.1 still. All of the other stations are running FCP7 still and I'd like to have the option of any editor going to any edit station and start cutting with a minimum of hassle. Corporate might need to bend the rules a bit this time and entertain other options.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 8:26:24 pm

Well, it isn't exactly ethical, but since it is EOL and unavailable, what's to stop you from cloning one of the other workstation's existing system drives and installing it in the upgraded suite? Strictly as a theoretical exercise, understand.

You're putting off the bigger question, anyhow, which is; what kind of company pegs its livelihood and customer's needs on no-longer-available software that's been End-Of-Lifed? Sure, you can limp along for another year or two like this, but then you will have to upgrade everything, all at once. Look at this not as losing an FCP7 work station, but setting up and advance-testing the stuff that will replace everything in the shop sooner or later. Or were you just planning to have everyone switch cold-turkey on the same day? You should test FCP-X and Smoke and Adobe on this machine, its a great advance scout. Who knows, but that you'll grow to love a new platform?

Watch Walter Biscardi; you might not do exactly as he did, but his process is informative.


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Tom Matthies
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 25, 2012 at 8:36:28 pm

Well, the answer to "what kind of a company?" is actually pretty simple. A TV station. Speed and consistency are important especially when time tables are not. These stations are used for production and not news editing. Everything from programming to promos to commercials are cut at the computers. There is a fair amount of rotation of editors involved and having each station as similar as possible to the others is a big plus. That's why the upgrade to the older system is happening in the first place. It's not easy to retrain the entire staff on a new platform while meeting tight deadlines at the same time.

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Jeff Meyer
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 26, 2012 at 6:00:15 am

Cloning won't work. The software looks for duplicates of the same serial number while it's running. Sometimes I forget I have Final Cut open on my desktop and try to open it on my laptop. Fail.

In addition, that isn't an honest way to do business.


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Herb Sevush
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 26, 2012 at 1:36:30 pm

[Jeff Meyer] "Cloning won't work. The software looks for duplicates of the same serial number while it's running. Sometimes I forget I have Final Cut open on my desktop and try to open it on my laptop. Fail."

That's only if the computers are on a common network.

[Jeff Meyer] "In addition, that isn't an honest way to do business."

It is every bit as honest as buying a copy off of Ebay - what do you think, those sellers are not cloning their copies and selling the same serial number over and over again? Apple has a very easy recourse if this bothers then - sell more copies of FCS3. If they have no desire to service their own customers then all's fair.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:41:58 pm

For the record, my ebay copy was a version that some corporate marketing department bought but never actually used: the serial number was not activated so it's technically one-owner, me. Seems they thought all you need to do is buy some software and you can make brilliant marketing videos from day one with zero skills.


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Herb Sevush
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:47:38 pm

[Mark Suszko] "Seems they thought all you need to do is buy some software and you can make brilliant marketing videos from day one with zero skills."

You mean that's not true?

I guess they should have bought FCPX instead, I hear it has a special "marketing video" button.

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Laura Bortman
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on May 7, 2013 at 8:51:03 pm

I called Apple today and they said you have to call them to order FCS 3 and it costs $999. It usually ships within 24 hrs. Apple's number 1-800-692-7753.

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Terry Mikkelsen
Re: Final Cut Studio 3 still available anywhere?
on Oct 26, 2012 at 3:03:45 pm

I agree here to some part. If I am hearing correctly, you want to remove a computer and replace it with a new one. If that is the case, then clone the old machine! You retain the same software with the same licensing. If you wipe the old system after making the clone, you are not violating any laws or ethics.

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