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Lee Burrows
Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 24, 2012 at 9:51:56 pm

Hey everyone! Is there a way to get text to smoothly scroll across the screen(left-right;right-left)? The text artifacts in Final Cut whether I go across or up/down and it is annoying. It even artifacts on my computer so it is not interlacing. I have tried exporting motion quicktime movie files to see if that works with no luck. Any suggestions? Is there a filter or a way in After Effects to smooth out a scroll?

Thanks!

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Dual 2 GHz Processor
Power PC G5
FCP 5.1.4
Black Magic Decklink Extreme
Sony UVW 1800
Motion 3

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Michael Gissing
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:55:20 pm

Try Boris crawl set to horizontal movement. FCP moving text gens are awful.


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Joseph Owens
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 25, 2012 at 4:15:16 pm

[Michael Gissing] "FCP moving text gens are awful."

Pretty much. Some people are fans of the graphic treatments available in Motion. LiveType was pretty good, but Apple didn't like it. CHV offered some plugins for scrolls that allowed for some pretty cool formatting, but a little bit flaky -- half-lines of text turning on and off at the top and bottom of screen when leading or following a graphic, for example.

jPo

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Bret Williams
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 25, 2012 at 7:18:55 pm

[Joseph Owens] "LiveType was pretty good, but Apple didn't like it"

It always seemed to me that LiveType was in some small way the basis of the way Motion worked. And later the basis for how some of iMovie and X worked. Just little bits, but then, LiveType itself was just a little bit.


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Lee Burrows
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 25, 2012 at 8:50:07 pm

Thanks. I appreciate the suggestions.

Is there one simple way to move text left-right or right-left? Nothing is working for me so far :(

Mac OS X (10.4.10)
1.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Dual 2 GHz Processor
Power PC G5
FCP 5.1.4
Black Magic Decklink Extreme
Sony UVW 1800
Motion 3

&

Mac OS X (10.5.6)
16 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Dual 2X3 GHz Dual Core intel Xeon
FCP 6
AJA Kona LHe


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Bret Williams
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 25, 2012 at 11:46:38 pm

A crawl or just a few words. I would just keyframe a few words in the motion tab.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 27, 2012 at 2:07:15 pm

There's a phenomenon known as judder, it's most apparent in horizontal movement, and it gets more apparent in lower frame rate video such as 24p. At certain speeds, the image looks like a series of discrete stills rather than smooth motion, and the fix is to change the speed of the motion.

If the timeline is interlaced, you could also see individual fields if your card isn't set properly, or if you're editing in 24p and displaying the timeline at 29.97.

Are either of these two conditions possible in your case?

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Lee Burrows
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 27, 2012 at 11:11:37 pm

Thank you to everyone for responding with all these great suggestions. I've tried a few other things without success so I figured I let everyone know my timeline specs. Dave LaRonde may be the closest to the problem imo but I am still having it unfortunately.

Codec:DVCPRO HD 720p60
960X720
Frame Rate is 29.97

I am currently just using Text in FCP and created an A to B move in the controls of text. Maybe I need to try to move the whole frame?

The clip is on you tube and can be viewed with the link below. The text is at :29 and 1:29 into the video. The clip on you tube is H264 but the problem exists in original file in FCP. It is less pronounced since it is uncompressed in FCP.







Thanks again for any input and all your help!

Lee

Mac OS X (10.4.10)
1.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Dual 2 GHz Processor
Power PC G5
FCP 5.1.4
Black Magic Decklink Extreme
Sony UVW 1800
Motion 3

&

Mac OS X (10.5.6)
16 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Dual 2X3 GHz Dual Core intel Xeon
FCP 6
AJA Kona LHe


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Sep 28, 2012 at 1:48:57 am

I don't see anything wrong with the motion of the graphics. However, I do see highly-saturated red text, which can cause problems in video.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Lee Burrows
Re: Trouble getting text to move across screen smoothly
on Oct 1, 2012 at 9:55:34 pm

Thanks Dave. I'll try bringing down the saturation a little and see if that helps.

Mac OS X (10.4.10)
1.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Dual 2 GHz Processor
Power PC G5
FCP 5.1.4
Black Magic Decklink Extreme
Sony UVW 1800
Motion 3

&

Mac OS X (10.5.6)
16 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Dual 2X3 GHz Dual Core intel Xeon
FCP 6
AJA Kona LHe


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