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Scott Urner
Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 7:09:26 pm

HELP!

This seems like the vain (vein?) of my existence.

I have interviews of a friend's rock band in 16x9. I have 4x3 footage of live performance shot in the 8mm app for iPhone. Trying to cut an EPK for the band (Electronic Press Kit)

Both look perfect in viewer.

When put into timeline, however, depending on sequence settings, one of the two is smushed - or stretched. (and that is the way they get exported, horrible)

We spent HOURS trying to fix. To no avail. To be honest, I have had this problem for years with mixed media.

HELP??!!

Thank you to whomever out there.

-Scott


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Shane Ross
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 8:14:03 pm

You need to open the clips into the Viewer, and set the DISTORT to 0. But then you need to push in 33% in order to fill in the 16:9 frame. That'll really lower the quality. But, that's how you use 4:3 in 16:9 without distortion.

Shane
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Scott Urner
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 10:39:25 pm

http://images.creativecow.net/237471/screenshot2012-06-23at3.34.23pm.png

Where do you choose 0??

And how do you push in 33%

Thanks for helping...

-S


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David Eaks
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 10:53:14 pm

Change the numbers to 0, then "push in" or scale to 33%.

FWIW its bain, it seems like the bain of your existence.


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Scott Urner
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34:44 pm

I changed the numbers to 0 as you said, and scale to 33 in the viewer, the image now disappears to a black box.

I put the scale back to 0 and there is still not image. (just to check)

And what I mean my no image, there's now a black 4x3 square when played. You can hear the audio of the band playing fine.

So, this is no bueno.

-S


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Shane Ross
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:35:54 pm

[Scott Urner] "and scale to 33 in the viewer"

133. 133%. You are scaling up beyond 100%...to 133%.

Shane
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David Eaks
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:47:56 pm

Wow my post was pretty bad, that's what I get for hastily posting from iphone on lunch break. I meant change the ratio to 0 and increase scale by 33% (as Shane said scale will be 133%).

Put the 4:3 clip on the 16:9 timeline and double click the clip to open in the viewer. Make your changes there.


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Joseph Owens
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 25, 2012 at 5:26:23 pm

[David Eaks] "FWIW its bain, it seems like the bain of your existence."

Uh, no... actually, its "bane".

"bane" was once a very serious word. The Old English "bana" meant
literally "slayer" in the sense we now use "killer" or "murderer."
Early on, the English "bane" was also used in the more general sense
of "cause of death," and by the 14th century "bane" was used in the
specialized sense of "poison," a sense which lives on in the names of
various poisonous plants such as "henbane" and "wolfbane."

From this very literal "something that kills you" usage, "bane" by the
16th century had broadened into its modern meaning of "something that
makes life unpleasant, a curse."

j (DR. Sheldon Cooper, to you) Po

"I always pass on free advice -- its never of any use to me" Oscar Wilde.


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David Eaks
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 25, 2012 at 6:53:56 pm

[Joseph Owens] "Uh, no... actually, its "bane"."

Haha thanks for the correction, and the interesting read about the words origin. You know what is not a good spell checker? Google search bar auto-fill suggestions.


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Shane Ross
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:21:42 pm

Aspect Ratio needs to be set to 0. And SCALE is where you adjust the...scale.

Shane
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Scott Urner
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:41:39 pm

By the way, once again, I said that in the viewer, it looks perfect.

Once I put it in the timeline, it's distorted.

You guys are suggesting altering the image in the viewer - this seems like a very odd solution, and it's not working anyway.

(And FYI, aspect ratio is already 0.)

Half of this problem is getting people on the same page as what I am actually talking about. So frustrating!

In the sequence timeline - the 4x3 image gets stretched into a 16x9 space. (or vice versa, the 4x3 images looks great in a different sequence and the widescreen images get smushed.)

So, are we talking about the same thing here?

Thanks again for your time.

-S


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Shane Ross
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:44:19 pm

Yes, we know what you mean.

OK...I guess you don't know the trick on how to do this. First off, cut the clip into the sequence. Put what you want, where you want. THEN...double click on that clip in the sequence to load it into the viewer. THERE is where you adjust the ASPECT RATIO and the SCALE.

Shane
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Scott Urner
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 23, 2012 at 11:47:18 pm

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!


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Scott Urner
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 24, 2012 at 12:04:30 am

It worked for one clip, for one second.

But when I bring more clips in, now they're distorted in all kinds of different ways.

Feels like I'm closer though.


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Juan Manuel
Re: Trying to marry 16x9 and 4x3 movies in timeline without annoying distortion
on Jun 25, 2012 at 3:14:04 pm

Just select one of the modified clips in the timeline and copy. The select all the 4:3 clips in your timeline, right click one of them and select 'paste atributes' and then 'basic motion'. That will paste your scale and distort (or was distort a second category? I don't remember right now) settings to all the 4:3 clips and that way they should end up with the correct settings.


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