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jimmy joe roche
Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 21, 2012 at 5:39:19 pm

Hey guys
So recently I've noticed something strange in Final Cut at the Lab where I work. We own a HVX and HPX and just recently I've noticed that when it Imports footage shot in 720p24PN ( which is how we suggest our students shoot) the footage is being ingested in the codex DVCPRO HD 720p60. FCP still shows that the frame rate is 23.98 . Dont remember FCP doing this in the past - I dont understand why its not "log and transferring" the footage into DVCPRO HD 720p24 ?
any suggestions?
thanks
jjr


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 21, 2012 at 5:50:41 pm

Pretty simple: some students aren't shooting 720 24pn but rather 720 24p, which records 24 over 60.

I recall our station photographer telling me that getting to the 24pn setting -- at least on an HVX -- isn't quite as straightforward as getting to the 24p setting; it's a bit confusing if you're not used to doing it. This may true for an HPX as well.

Sounds like some people might need a refresher class in setting cameras up for 24pn.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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jimmy joe roche
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 21, 2012 at 5:56:32 pm

Hello Dave
I appreciate the reply
BUT actually that is not what is happening I just tested it myself on both cameras yesterday and today -- its 100% in 70p24PN --


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 21, 2012 at 6:10:21 pm

Sorry David, you are incorrect. The frame rate is coming in as 23.98...but the COMPRESSOR is called DVCPRO HD 720p60. Because that is the base compressor type. 720p is based on a 60 fps rate. ALL 720p is. So that is the compressor type. But Panasonic and others know how to get it to record only 23.98fps, or 29.97fps. But the compressor is still the same.

You are doing nothing wrong...all is good. It's just the compressor type name...that's all.

Shane
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Dave LaRonde
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 21, 2012 at 7:21:04 pm

Thanks for the clarification in nomenclature. When I want a frame rate, I look at the frame rate column the FCP broswer.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Mark Raudonis
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 22, 2012 at 2:36:09 pm

... and it's a "CODEC" not a CODEX!

Comes from "Compression/Decompression".

A codex is basically a book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex

Maybe that was the problem?

Mark



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Steve Eisen
Re: Final Cut P2 Codex Problem
on Mar 22, 2012 at 4:22:08 pm

[Mark Raudonis] "... and it's a "CODEC" not a CODEX!"

Not be confused by Kodak! You can always codis and codat.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Vice President
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group


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