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Brad Froman
Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:54:27 am

I want to make life as easy as possible for the FCP editor when I bring him footage. Primary footage will be shot on a Panasonic HDX900, and some b-roll will come from a Canon 5D. Nobody cares whether the spot is cut in 720 or 1080. My questions are these concerning the best format settings for both camera and FCP timeline:

1. 1080i or 720p?(24 or 30)? for Panasonic 900?
2. 1080p 24 or 30 for Canon 5D?
3. FCP timeline.

Pro bono job so no other camera choices. Worthy cause though.

Brad Froman
Director/Cameraman
Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Michael Gissing
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:58:17 am

Choice about frame rates and frame size are usually informed by how the final product will be distributed and displayed.

Is it for broadcast, web, DVD etc?


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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:00:40 am

Yes, will be for broadcast.

Brad Froman
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Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Michael Gissing
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:05:52 am

29.97 1080i is most common for broadcast.


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Shane Ross
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:17:12 am

Well.... lately I have been editing a LOT of footage at 23.98...and we deliver 23.98 masters, that can easily be converted to 29.97 for air. It all depends on if they want it to look like video, or look like film. Cadence wise.

DO NOT FORGET TO CONVERT the Canon 5D footage to ProRes. Just making sure...too many people don't and think FCP works with H.264 files the camera shoots...it doesn't.

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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:37:31 am

Thanks, I did know about converting the Canon 5D to ProRes. I'm sure "film look" would excite them.

What's more important, having both cameras shooting in progressive (meaning Panasonic HDX900 is at 720p 24 and the Canon 5D at 1080p 24)? Or, keeping both at 1080 with the HDX900 at 30i and the Canon at 24p or 30p)?

Brad Froman
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Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Shane Ross
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:40:55 am

[Brad Froman] "(meaning Panasonic HDX900 is at 720p 24 and the Canon 5D at 1080p 24)? Or, keeping both at 1080 with the HDX900 at 30i and the Canon at 24p or 30p)?"

DO NOT MIX FRAME RATES! That'd be bad bad bad. Shot 720p with the HDX900. Even at 720p, the imagery is great.

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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:45:54 am

Thought so. Just never ran into this question yet. Issue resolved and one less thing to worry about. Thank you!

Brad Froman
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Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Shane Ross
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:51:14 am

OR...shoot 1080i30 on the panasonic (well, 1080i60, but it is 30fps), and 1080p30 with the Canon DSLRs. Depends on the look you want.

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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 2:01:08 am

So mixing interlaced and progressive in the sequence is not an issue. You just want to be sure the frame rates are the same?

Brad Froman
Director/Cameraman
Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:38:26 am

Great. Thanks for the info.

Brad Froman
Director/Cameraman
Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Rafael Amador
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:55:18 am

If I'm not wrong the 5D shoots real 1080p30.
Once converted to Prores needs to be conformed to p29,98.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Shane Ross
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:56:23 am

The latest firmware, and later released models shoot 29.97. Only the first models did straight up 30fps

Shane
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Brad Froman
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:58:32 am

They had a firmware change that makes the 30p actually 29.97. Thanks.

Brad Froman
Director/Cameraman
Cool Blue Pictures
Washington, DC


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Rafael Amador
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 2:11:14 am

Thanks for the info.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Michael Gissing
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 2:17:21 am

Rafa, the 5D has been able to shoot 23.976, 25 and 29.97 for a while.


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Rafael Amador
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 1:41:39 pm

[Michael Gissing] "Rafa, the 5D has been able to shoot 23.976, 25 and 29.97 for a while.
"

That proves that I'm old fashioned (or that I'm shooting with a Lumix :-).
rafael

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Shane Ross
Re: Mixing Canon 5D footage & Panasonic HDX900 Issues
on Feb 22, 2012 at 5:13:26 pm

Do yourself a huge favor and do shoot tests. Shoot for 23.98 and for musing 30i and 30p. See how it looks and works. Choose you best option from there

Shane
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