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steev brown
Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 7:19:00 pm

MAC 10.6.8
proc 2.8 quad
mem 3GB
FCP7

Im editing a doc and as stated by many ppl, by the time my project hit the 150 mark I started crashing, it got up to like 10 -15 a day. So I tried the making a duplicate of the project, one that would have the footage and one with the timelines. When I tried opening both of the projects FCP would give me the error that the file is from a newer version of FCP? So my next idea was to chop the project down into 30 min timlelines, deleting the others in each. But the file size grew?

Thank you for your time! =)


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 9:11:07 pm

[steev brown] "by the time my project hit the 150 mark I started crashing"

150 what? Minutes? Clips in the timeline? Megabytes? Cups of coffee?
...and what, pray tell, is the codec of the video footage?

If it's NOT H.264 or something equally wierd, you may have to segment this think into acts, scenes, etc.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 9:20:47 pm

oh right, my project was @ 240MB i split it up into smaller projects that are now 190MB. I am in pro rez proxy


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:00:28 pm

And for the record thats about accurate on the coffee.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:06:20 pm

I'm afraid you'll need to segment the project in some logical way. The project file may be 190 MB currently, but it still translates into a lot of memory used for the project and you only have 3 gigs.

FCP can use every bit of your memory, so you need to keep the project file's demands on memory much lighter than you're currently doing. Think in terms of scenes. Or of acts, if you prefer. You'll be a lot happier in the long run.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:14:54 pm

My project is a doc that really is a bunch of 3 min scenes. I could just group them smaller making each chunk 20 mins. Giving me 15 separate project files? Which can only be opened one at a time? Or do you think if they are thats small it will let me open several? As I stated before FCp would not let me open 2 projects at once.

If this is just the way that it is thats fine, I just dont want to be going about it the wrong way, when there is a more suitable process.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:37:10 pm

[steev brown] "Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)"

20-minute sections sound about right.


Is this thing actually fifteen 20-minute sections, meaning it's 300 minutes, more commonly known as 5 HOURS LONG? Yipes! None of the operas in Wagner's Ring Cycle are that long!

That better be one riveting documentary. Or at least it should have intermissions so people get potty breaks. Perhaps even meals. Or a nap.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:40:48 pm

HAHAHA oops, yeah lil mis-calculation there, more like ten 20 min segs, its @ 3 and a 1/2 right now , and still needs to be cut in half.

Ok 20 min segs it is.
Also Im switching over to a system w 5gig mem, that should help.


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:45:04 pm

but let me ask you, any clue as to why FCP says it cant open 2 projects @ once and claims that it is from an earlier version ? Is that a meme issue?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:51:26 pm

I bet it's memory going wiggy. But then, I like light project files.

My largest project file so far has been about 20 MB for a multi-section piece, and that's on a dual quad-core Mac Pro with 8 gigs of RAM. I don't like the prospect of painting myself into a corner.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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John Christie
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:06:02 am

Steev

I've always found that copying a project and deleting the unused elements doesn't work as well as dragging elements into to a new project. FCP seems to hang onto things in the project file, even if they've been deleted.

Cheers

John


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:12:17 am

[John Christie] "I've always found that copying a project and deleting the unused elements doesn't work as well as dragging elements into to a new project. FCP seems to hang onto things in the project file, even if they've been deleted."

Absolutely correct John! Corruption of the project, if any, gets duplicated the first way, and that's never good.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

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John Heagy
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:24:43 am

We've had this happen and dividing the project timeline did not solve the problem.

FCP7 keeps a project's data much like an adding machine with a paper spool. You can keep subtracting but the tape just keeps getting longer.

I would suggest creating an empty project and copy portions of the timeline into it. You can drag source files from the old project into it as needed.

John


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steev brown
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:29:34 am

copy that, in the process of trying the copying the footage to a blank project to work from (as suggested on another thread) to see if that will work, but im at 10 min with the spinner so far.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Project size is large and keeps crashing ( posted suggestions not working)
on Feb 1, 2012 at 3:50:04 am

Don't copy the footage, just copy the sequence(s) and or bin(s) you need to the new empty project.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

Don't miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing "The Whale" to the Big Screen:
http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfit...

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