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Matt Campbell
PAL Question
on Nov 10, 2011 at 11:31:34 pm

You know how you have NTSC at 720x486 and you make a Quicktime file at 640x480 with square pixels, what is the PAL equivalent of that?

720x576 PAL

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Michael Gissing
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 10, 2011 at 11:49:22 pm

1024 x 576 is PAL 16:9 square. Divide down or multiply up for other frame sizes


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Matt Campbell
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 11, 2011 at 3:28:31 pm

That's 16:9, I'm referring to 4:3.

Like in NTSC, your edit would 720x486, but that's for broadcast and for web you would use 640x480, square pixels. Any ideas?

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Bouke Vahl
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 11, 2011 at 4:23:56 pm

Back to school, math class 101.

640 / 4 * 3 = ????

No matter the pixels used, if it is intended to be 4:3, the square pixel variant has a 4:3 aspect ratio.

So a 40 x 30 image will do just fine, aspect ratio wise...

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Matt Campbell
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 11, 2011 at 4:32:13 pm

Sorry, I'm just not following. So I opened a PAL D1/DV Square Pixel, 788x576 preset in Photoshop. Opened up the Image Size window and changed the 788 dimension to 640 and got 640x468. Sound right?

I dont' how to do all these conversions. Can anyone just give the dimensions without all the runaround?

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Bouke Vahl
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 11, 2011 at 4:35:16 pm

Quicktime is playing tricks on you.
It anticipates on the pixel aspect ratio as the file is intended to show, as well as the non-square pixel aspect ratio of the monitor.

So, do get your calculator out.
But what i don't get, if you don't know how to transcode, what are you trying to accomplish?

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Matt Campbell
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 11, 2011 at 5:11:04 pm

That's my confusion is that I'm not really sure. In NTSC land, when I have a D1 file 720x486 and use my external monitor with FCP, all looks good and normal. That actual file on the computer monitor looks strange because the monitor can't display NTSC pixels. So quicktime displays it using the Production setting under Show Movie Properties, rather than displaying Encoded Pixels. So I would create a 640x480 square pixel file to represent what the TV would display. So looking at the 640x480 square pixel movie file on the computer side by side with the NTSC file on the TV monitor looks identical.

My question is, with PAL, what are the dimensions for this. What would a web deliverable in PAL be. If we deliver 720x486, as 640x480 for web in NTSC land, what is that equivalent in PAL land?

Sorry, this stuff is really confusing. And I'm not even sure I'm saying this correctly or even representing the files correctly. I don't use 720x486 for web because the computer can't display those NTSC pixels and allowing Quicktime to display it using the Production setting, still looks off. Hence using the 640x480 setting.

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Bouke Vahl
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 12, 2011 at 12:50:20 pm

640 x 480 would work for Pal just the same. It's also 4:3, as i've told you.
But you could also use 800 x 600, or whatever 4:3 format you like.

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Matt Campbell
Re: PAL Question
on Nov 12, 2011 at 1:49:53 pm

Thx. And sorry for the confusion.

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