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Charlie Kosheff
AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 13, 2011 at 6:34:55 pm

Am new to AVC Intra. Cameraman shot AVC Intra 100 instead of DVCProHD and I am stumped. In P2 CMS, the frame rate shows as 29.97. When I log and transfer into FCP, frame rate says 23.98, codec listed as AVC Intra 100 1080 24p/p30. Nothing I do in preferences in terms of checking or unchecking "remove pulldown," bringing in Native VS. ProRes, etc. changes the resulting 23.98 fps. The rest of my pre existing footage is 29.97 and I need to stick with that.

Running FCP 7 in Snow Leopard 10.68 with newest P2 drivers, P2 CMS, AVC Intra decoder....



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 13, 2011 at 6:40:58 pm

With AVC-I, the cameras have the ability to shoot true 23.98 psf, while DVCPro HD does not. It's possible they shot 24p.

If possible, can you upload one the the XMLs that reside in the CLIP folder? Please zip it first, and then upload here by clicking on the little disk icon.

Jeremy


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Charlie Kosheff
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 1:05:24 am

Thanks Jeremy- Could not get it to upload, but here is what it says:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no" ?>


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060A2B340101010501010D4313000000565A2CB3465805C40080458230F79005
9024
1001/24000

0
060A2B340101010501010D4313000000755D2CB3465805D50080458230F79005


0001JI
060A2B340101010501010D4313000000565A2CB3465805C40080458230F79005
AAF08C1578


00029U
060A2B340101010501010D431300000017DB3FB4465805D20080458230F79005
AAF08C1578





MXF
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23.98p
01:00:00:00
A30F24C3
16:9

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16

32768
36132096



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32768
36132096




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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 6:19:15 pm

You have to zip it first. Then upload. Do you mind, it does appear to be 24p, but I'd like to take a look at the file if you don't mind.

Sorry!

Jeremy


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Charlie Kosheff
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 7:15:47 pm

You know, I have zipped it and uploaded several times and it never seems to posted anywhere in here....



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 7:19:41 pm

[Charlie Kosheff] "You know, I have zipped it and uploaded several times and it never seems to posted anywhere in here...."

Got it!

http://my.creativecow.net/Charlie-Kosheff1/files

Let me take a look.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 7:21:29 pm

Yes this is in fact true 24p material. You will have to run these through Compressor to make these 60i or 30p whatever you need to match.

Jeremy


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Charlie Kosheff
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 8:39:09 pm

The interesting part is, the interview in this footage doesn't play in sync in FCP, either in clip form or in a 24P timeline with same settings as the clip. If I drop it into a 29.97 timeline, it stays in sync. I think I am just going to edit with it in 29.97 and export 29.97 and see what happens. I have one other main interview that is 29.97.



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AVC-Intra frame rate different in P2CMS and in FCP?
on Oct 14, 2011 at 8:41:36 pm

[Charlie Kosheff] "I think I am just going to edit with it in 29.97 and export 29.97 and see what happens. "

You will have 2224 pulldown. Frame1-Frame2-Frame3-Frame4-Frame4-Frame1-Frame2-Frame3-Frame4-Frame4.

Jeremy


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