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Alexandra Hidalgo
Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 10, 2011 at 11:13:33 pm

I am working on a project that was mainly shot in 1440x1880 HD (16:9). However, someone else shot some of the footage and they sent it to me as a DV file. The format for that footage is 720x480 NTSC DV (3:2). When I start a sequence with the 1440x1880 footage, it makes the 720x480 footage look letterboxed. When I start the sequence with the 720x480 footage, it makes the 1440x1880 footage look blurry.

Is there anyway to get make the 729x480 footage to match the 1440x1880 footage? I don't care too much if it loses some resolution, but I don't want it to be letterboxed.

Thanks so much!

Alex


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Eric Strand
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 1:04:05 am

You could run the SD footage through compressor and up convert it to HD. Or if you're delivering the content on DVD you could just edit your project in SD. The HD footage looks blurry because you haven't rendered the project. If you exported, it would look fine.


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 1:13:53 am

Sorry, is the 720x480 the SD footage? If so, do you recommend that I change the sequence settings to 720x480 and then render it? The main outlet for this video will be online but we're hoping to make it look as good as we can in full screen mode.


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Eric Strand
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 2:20:31 am

Sorry for not being clearer. Yes the 720x480 is the Standard Definition footage. Since you're going to the web, you could just up convert it to HD in Compressor. It won't look as good as the HD movies, but it will conform with your timeline.


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 2:23:18 am

Thanks. So when I turn it into an mov in compressor, should I tell it to be 720x480 in the inspector window? How do I tell it to convert to HD?


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Eric Strand
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 2:47:25 am

The easiest way would be to open up one of your 1440x1080 clips in Qucktime and type apple+i to get the movie information window. Write down what it says next to format.

In Compressor type what the format is into the search window. It could be HDV or DVCPRO HD or something else. Whatever format it is, pick the setting that matches in Compressor and drag it onto your video. Then click submit.


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 2:53:27 am

And this would be better than keeping the 720x480 settings that I'll be exporting the sequence in?


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Eric Strand
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 3:18:52 am

You said you wanted to maintain the best quality. 1440x1080 is higher quality than 720x480, more pixels. I suggested editing in HD because you said most of your stuff is HD. If your sequence is 720x480 that means you're editing in SD.

In your position right now, the easiest and least technical option would be to edit in SD. Leave your sequence as 720x480. When you export your HD footage should look fine.


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Jeff Meyer
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 4:28:55 am

All of this Compressor work is assuming the footage was shot anamorphic. Here are a few options, please let us know which kind of footage you have:

1) Plain, 4x3 SD - this is footage that fills a "full screen" which is the more square shape of old TVs.
2) Letterboxed 4x3 SD - this footage fills a "full screen" but it has black bars on the top and the bottom so it's widescreen video packaged inside a fullscreen video
3) Anamorphic SD - this is footage that is shot on the same space as SD, but it's widescreen squished down to the fullscreen size, and needs to be stretched back out to be displayed properly. The Compressor route will work properly if this is the footage you were provided.


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37:14 pm

I'm pretty sure the footage is anamorphic. I should be able to compress the final project tonight and see how it looks. I'll let you know if I run into trouble.

Thanks so much for your help, you guys!


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 12, 2011 at 2:57:53 pm

So I've been trying different rates in the compressor and none of them seem to be working. I tried compressing it at 720x480 NTSC DV (3:2) and the 1440x1880 footage looked awful. Blurry and with movement lines everywhere. Then I tried 1440x1880 with DVCPRO HD 1080i60 (16:9) pixel ratio in the inspector, which is what most of the footage was filmed in and it looks great (very crisp), however, it's stretched sideways. Any suggestions on what I can do to make it look crisp but not stretched? I'm currently trying 720x480 with DVCPRO HD 1080i60 (16:9) pixel ratio, but I'm guessing that won't work either.

Please let me know and thanks so much!


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Eric Strand
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 13, 2011 at 1:25:35 am

Are you watching the stretched movie in quicktime? Try going up to Movie Properties under Window. Go over to the Presentation tab then uncheck and check the bottom option, where it has the drop down menu saying clean, encoded pixels, etc. See if unchecking and checking that box fixes the image.


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Alexandra Hidalgo
Re: Working with both 720x480 and 1440x1080 in the same project
on Oct 13, 2011 at 12:41:41 pm

I'm afraid my Quicktime doesn't have a Movie Properties or a Presentation Tab. I looked but couldn't find one. Is there any other way to check?

I also tried to go back to editing the footage in the way it was filmed originally and letting the 720X480 footage look smaller with black borders around it, which is what it was doing when I started writing about this issue, but even if I remove the attributes (distortion and motion) somehow parts of the video still come out distorted even in Final Cut. Any ideas on that? At this point I'm OK with having some of the footage look small if I can just get most of the footage to not be stretched or blurry.

Thanks!


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