FORUMS: list search recent posts

Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?

COW Forums : Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy

<< PREVIOUS   •   FAQ   •   VIEW ALL   •   PRINT   •   NEXT >>
jb yong
Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 7, 2011 at 7:45:27 pm

This may be a newbie question but I have started shooting video with 7D camera at 30fps and panasonic gh2 at 24fps. There is no 30fps option on the gh2.

I was wondering what is best way to add both videos with different frame rates in same timeline in final cut pro? What is best workflow and is there gotchas i should know about? Can I just drop everything into timeline and hope final cut can just understand the different frame rates?
Thanks in advance for any help.


Return to posts index

Mark Spano
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 7, 2011 at 8:53:55 pm

FCP is notoriously terrible at handling this type of mixed rate workflow. I would have shot them both at the same rate (yes, there is an option for 30fps on the GH2 according to Panasonic's tech specs. That being said, your next simplest option is to cut at 30i, and add 2:3 pulldown to all of the 24p footage before you add it to the edit. Otherwise if you just drop it into a 30i timeline in FCP, it will add 2:2:2:4 pulldown, and that looks terrible.



Return to posts index

jerry wise
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 8, 2011 at 2:24:58 am

what is the best way to add 3/2 pulldown? Compressor doesnt seem to do it easily...especially if the clip has audio.


Return to posts index


Mark Spano
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 8, 2011 at 3:16:54 am

Jerry,

Compressor works extremely well in adding proper 3:2 pulldown. I usually set the audio controls to "Pass-through" so no encoding is done on audio and it comes out fine. The key to getting the pulldown accurate is through both video encoding settings and frame controls settings. In video encoding, set the frame rate to 29.97 interlaced, top field first (for HD). In frame controls, set all values to Fast, and set the output fields to top first. Takes a bit of time, but not too long, and you'll wind up with a 29.97i clip with proper pulldown.

I have a preset I can share if necessary...



Return to posts index

jerry wise
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 8, 2011 at 5:08:42 pm

please share the preset. i've never had luck adding pulldown with compressor.


Return to posts index

Mark Spano
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 10, 2011 at 1:30:51 pm

Jerry,

Unzip and put this in your home/Library/Application Support/Compressor folder:

3051_prorespd.setting.zip



Return to posts index


jb yong
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 8, 2011 at 3:20:59 am

the 30fps on gh2 is only for lower res and not HD and is why I use 24p on it

• AVCHD :
24H: 1920 x 1080, (24p (23.976fps), 23 Mbps)
24L: 1920 x 1080, (24p, 17 Mbps)
FSH: 1920 x 1080, (60i*, 17 Mbps)
FH: 1920 x 1080, (60i*, 13 Mbps)
SH: 1280 x 720, (60p*, 17 Mbps)
H: 1280 x 720, (60p*, 13 Mbps)

• Motion JPEG:
1280 x 720, 30fps
848 x 480, 30fps
640 x 480, 30fps
320 x 240, 30fps


Return to posts index

Mark Spano
Re: Best workflow process mix frame rate 24fps and 30fps in final cut?
on Oct 8, 2011 at 5:46:55 am

[jb yong] "FSH: 1920 x 1080, (60i*, 17 Mbps)"

not sure what you mean by lower res / not HD. That looks like full res / HD to me. Unless you had a requirement for not shooting interlaced, I don't see why this would not have worked...



Return to posts index

<< PREVIOUS   •   VIEW ALL   •   PRINT   •   NEXT >>
© 2018 CreativeCOW.net All Rights Reserved
[TOP]