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Dennis Dean
Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 1:58:01 pm

I'm wondering if there is a faster way for me to export a video for interim review online? I'm currently using FCP 6.06 G5 Dual with 4 gigs of RAM and a two-drive external RAID ARAY connected via FW800.

My usual process is to first export a reference copy (same settings as sequence - usually Pro Res 422 or XD Cam both 1080i), then compress it for online use. The problem is exporting from Final Cut (not compressing for online use.)

Sometimes FCP exports a true reference copy, quickly, and sometimes FCP decides to export a self-contained version and take a lot of time, regardless of whether I've checked "self contained" or not. This is not much of a problem with most videos in the 2-4 minute ranges; my usual product.

Recently two 25-minute videos have been problematic. This morning I went to export a reference copy and was informed it was an 11 hour process. I removed empty tracks and decided to export via Quick Time Conversion - outputting a half-size h.264 version. The dialogue box at first said 7 minutes, but at 7 percent completed decided 3 hours was more likely... and seems to be holding there. Far better than 7 percent.

Any thoughts as to how to speed things up will be appreciated. I've been considering a new desktop because I need one for many reasons - but are there other formats or processes I should be looking at for this particular issue? I just want a faster way to spit out a version for the client to eye-ball in review.

Thanks!

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
-It's about results-
http://www.deangroup.com


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Shane Ross
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 2:05:08 pm

Everything fully rendered before you export? If not, FCP renders as it exports. And that takes time

Shane

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Dennis Dean
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 2:38:46 pm

Hi Shane - as far as I know. I hit Sequence>Render All and lots of checked things show up - then it renders for awhile, then it's done and plays back. ... Hmmm.

Just noticed "Full" was not checked - so I checked it and hit Render All again - it now says it's "Conforming MPEG-2 Video..." and that the estimated time is 5 hours.

I've never checked "Full" before... should I be doing this?

Back to my original problem - at present just looking for a quicker method to export intermediate review copies.

BTW - I hit "unsubscribe" by mistake - can you re-subscribe me or is that something I can do?

thanks-Dennis (dennis@deangroup.com)

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
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http://www.deangroup.com


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Shane Ross
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 3:16:27 pm

Try to avoid using an XDCAM sequence setting...that's where the CONFORMING part comes into action. Use a ProRes sequence, and render. Then export. NO conforming then. That's the big problem, GOP timeline.

Shane

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Dennis Dean
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 3:32:32 pm

Aha! Thank you - And - anything faster than a straight export from FCP in the Pro Res sequence? (Such as via QT Conversion)

And in my next system - would any kind of hardware help?

DD

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
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Shane Ross
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 3:35:45 pm

[Dennis Dean] "nything faster than a straight export from FCP in the Pro Res sequence? (Such as via QT Conversion) "

Nope. Fastest way is to fully render, export a ref QT, and take that into Compressor.

[Dennis Dean] "And in my next system - would any kind of hardware help? "

To render to H.264? Yes. Matrox Compress HD card (PCIe only), Matrox MXO2 Mini with MAX (any Matrox MXO2 product with MAX), Elgato Turbo.264 USB device...

Shane

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Dennis Dean
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 3:42:55 pm

Thanks very much. As always, invaluable advice - ! Saving your advice and my sheckels for the next system.

DD

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
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http://www.deangroup.com


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Jeremy Doyle
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 4:34:46 pm

I have a 6 year old dual 2.3 G5 that I use at home and all I can say it that Elgato Turbo.264 USB device that I paid $75 bucks for has been done wonders for making on-line approvals and quick h.264 compressions that I have needed. Almost real-time conversations, which is amazing on a G5.

The trick is finding an older model Elgato that will work with a G5. And the G5 version only creates SD frame sizes so if you need HD web files, your best bet is a new computer.



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Dennis Dean
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 19, 2011 at 6:49:34 pm

Thanks, Jeremy - no, I do need HD sizes.

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
-It's about results-
http://www.deangroup.com


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Steve Eisen
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 20, 2011 at 4:24:09 am

Use the Turbo.264HD (HD version). $99

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
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Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group


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Jeremy Doyle
Re: Faster exports for online review
on Sep 20, 2011 at 3:12:44 pm

[Steve Eisen] "Use the Turbo.264HD (HD version). $99"

That version is intel mac only and will not work with a G5.



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