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Trevor Ward
time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 2, 2011 at 3:49:36 pm

Adobe is offering 50% off it's production packages if you are switching from FCP or AVID. Seems pretty attractive.

I've been using FC since 2005. I've got a few projects that are still being edited. I'm a freelance editor and I work alone. So there are fewer reasons not to switch. Seems like Apple is ditching the professional editing platform. What's the future of Final Cut? (what about Color and the others?).

If I'm going to make the switch, might as well do it for 50% off, right?

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
http://www.redeyefilmco.com
orlando, fl


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 2, 2011 at 4:13:05 pm

Go ahead, you first. I'm stickin' with FCP7. My bet is Apple reworks FCPX and incorporates all the things we had in FCP7.

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Trevor Ward
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 2, 2011 at 4:29:00 pm

When? 12 months from now? Sounds like they went in a completely different direction and now they have to stop the train and go back the other direction.

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
http://www.redeyefilmco.com
orlando, fl


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 2, 2011 at 4:49:31 pm

Well, actually, FCPX has some amazing features that AVID and Premier doesn't have. So, if they just add back in the old stuff we need and maybe even add even more features, then we might actually be ahead in the game. Big 'If' I know. I just won't justify the hardware change to AVID and can't even say the phrase to clients... "I edit on Premier."

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Pete Appleby
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 3:31:06 pm

Avid is also offering a promo for folks switching from FCP. Both the Adobe and Avid promos expire the end of September. So I'm waiting a bit.

If you use Photoshop or Illustrator, the Adobe Production Premium suite promo makes a lot of sense for the price. I will probably wind up getting it...


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Rafael Amador
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 5:41:36 pm

No sense to run any direction.
FC.7, AVID and PP are the same than one month ago.
FCX doesn't adds nothing.
Unless in need to invest in new posts, why to rush?
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 5:43:07 pm

FCPX adds 64-bit speed which is HUGE.

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Rafael Amador
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 9:07:06 pm

[Ernie Santella] "FCPX adds 64-bit speed which is HUGE."
Speed for what?
To render and export few presets and without any control on what you are doing?
First time I saw Premier (no yet PRO) in 1996, they told me "this is the future of video editing".
Well it took few years to make from PP a professional tool.
Lets see how takes for Apple to give FCX the operability and control in FCP.
Then will be an option to consider.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 9:36:53 pm

I was speaking about rendering inside FCP being faster in 64-bit. Hey, don't get me wrong I'm no fanboy of FCPX. I think it sucks and is far from being ready for anything Primetime. But, I'm willing to give it a try for some very simple internal projects. Thanks why I'm keeping FCP7 on a partition and working with that for ALL my clients projects. I just don't want to switch right now and buy new hardware.

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Trevor Ward
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 7:48:50 pm

Yes, this will probably be my course of action. I'm running fcp 7 and I've really no reason to change, even if fcpx WAS what everyone was hoping for. Heck, the only reason I upgraded to 7 was so I could have the different flavors of ProRes, like Proxy. That was almost worth the upgrade price. Add in Color 1.5 and it was worth the upgrade. 7 is working great for me.

Of course, the allure of bigger, faster, stronger is always there.

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
http://www.redeyefilmco.com
orlando, fl


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 3, 2011 at 8:02:55 pm

Maybe this will help us all. I've just bought a new 2TB system drive and will partition it into 3 for OSXSnow/FCP7, OSXSnow/FCPX and OSXLion/FCPX, like David Roth suggests. This way I can work easily without worry for quite a while.

http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Mike Gill
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 6, 2011 at 5:43:09 pm

"and can't even say the phrase to clients... "I edit on Premier.""



And you're comfortable with telling clients the phrase "I edit on Final Cut X"?


Things change. Heck the movie Monsters from last year was edited using the Adobe Creative Suite. Do people still think of Premiere as the same software they tried out 10 years ago?


http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=casestudydetail&cases...


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49:24 pm

It'll take a little while for stuck up agency people to learn about FCPX. I'm not sure why Premier got stuck with such a bum rap, especially since AE and PS are so highly rated.

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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Mike Gill
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 6, 2011 at 7:58:06 pm

"I'm not sure why Premier got stuck with such a bum rap, especially since AE and PS are so highly rated."


That's what I never could understand. Adobe obviously produces great software in design. I could never figure out why people couldn't grasp the concept that Adobe could eventually duplicate that success with an NLE.

Premiere got a bum rap was because it did have its problems years ago and word of mouth gets around and all of suddenly people who never used Premiere are bashing it in 2011. Herd mentality

People won't touch premiere because they had a terrible experience with it 10 years ago, BUT they are just fine with using other Adobe products. To me that doesn't make any sense. You obviously are aware that the company is capable of producing good design software. Shouldn't be a shock that the software would eventually mature into something very good.


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Ernie Santella
Re: time to switch to Adobe?
on Jul 6, 2011 at 8:26:32 pm

It's exactly the same reason many of us are hesitant to go back to AVID. We've all had really bad experiences and don't want to give them more of our money. It's a lot of why so many of us went to FCP!

Ernie Santella
Santella Productions Inc.
http://www.santellaproductions.com


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