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John Tate
FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 12:13:53 pm

I've been trying to render my projects and keep getting the error message "Out of Memory". I've tried mulitple things to fix this, been on the phone with Apple FCP guys, trashed my preferences 37 times, etc etc.

I'm working with AVCHD files as well as some GFX sent to me by the networks I produce TV shows for. My OLD PowerPC Mac had no issues with this whatsoever. Some other producers I know are having the same issue and we have similiar workflows.

I cannot export my sequences either thru the Export tool or thru Compressor. Both fail everytime.

I need help, deadlines are approaching and if I can't output my sequences....it will not be good.

John


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André Engelhardt
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 1:29:36 pm

Hi John,

I remember having this issue once because of a single corrupted graphics file and in another case because of a corrupted video. The only way I was able to find the culprit out of the 300 or so clips I had in the project was by adding them one after the other and trying to export.

I've also had success fixing this problem once by trashing all my render files and creating a duplicate sequence to work from.

Increase the auto save interval, max. undo's etc. and start eliminating. It's painful and time-intensive but as far as I'm aware the only way to get to a corrupted clip.

Maybe someone out there knows of a tool that can batch check the integrity of clips and graphics though?

Good luck!

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Michael Kammes
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51:39 pm

Mostly what André said.

Duplicate your sequence, and cut your sequence in half. Try an export? Does it work? Great! We know the problem is in the half you cut. Now, add in half of the half of the sequence you cut. Repeat. Do it until you find the culprit.

Do you have any gfx above 3K or 4K, in terms of frame size? I've often seen that cause issues....FCP no likey high res gfx.

~Michael



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John Tate
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 1:58:53 pm

Thanks Andre'

Ok, so I need to trash my render files, not the cache? Also, before doing that make a duplicate sequence as a spare/work sequence?

My autosave is at 5mins because FCP keeps crashing on me....repeatedly.

I can increase that and lower my Undo actions. I have that at 50 because I mess up a lot!

Thanks for the info. I truly appreciate your time!

John


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André Engelhardt
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 2:10:21 pm

Trash the cache for good measure too but also and definitely the render files FCP created, if you're lucky that will already fix it.

If not, Michael's method is great to eliminate the offending clip or graphic.

You can also duplicate the FCP project file in the Finder until you have eliminated the problem (just to be on the safe side, when I run into issues I create an exact duplicate copy of everything I'm working on and then try to nail the problem down, then fix it in the original and discard the duplicate but that's just my silliness).

Autosave and undo is all good, I just know that a lot of people have it still set at the standard FCP settings which can cause a lot of frustration.

Crossing my fingers for you!

André

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John Tate
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 2:16:02 pm

Andre',

I am 9mins away from seeing if it works in Compressor. We were experiencing some issues with our external hard drives, so I moved it to an internal drive on my Mac Pro. That fixed a lot of the crashing issues so I'm checking that first with an export to Compressor to see if it works. I'm just trying to get this first show out the door today. Deadline is next Wednesday.

But I will try to delete all the render files as you suggested after this has finished whether it succeeds or fails. Hopefully that will fix it.

Your idea sounds good, hope it works. Many thanks.

John


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Ben Holmes
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 2:33:59 pm

Whenever I get this issue (rarer than it used to be) I restore my project from a previous autosave where it wasn't occuring - and redo my work to that point. In all the times this has happened, this has always fixed it.

In my experience this has nothing to do with 'memory' - it's corruption. Whether that be project, render or media. If it's the last one (it never has been for me) I guess you'll see the problem re-occur at the same point each time.

Ben

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Don Walker
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jun 9, 2011 at 2:58:20 pm

If you are dealing with corrupt media, you might want to consider purchasing the FCS maintenance pack from Digital Rebellion. They have an app within this suite that finds the corrupt file quickly.
http://www.digitalrebellion.com/fcsmaintenance/

don walker
texarkana, texas

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jeff fish
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jul 13, 2011 at 5:38:04 pm

large stills will also give the "out of memory" error.
reduce the size to below 2000px


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Trevor Ward
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 24, 2011 at 11:38:22 pm

This just pisses me off! I'm having this same issue. It's only a 20 minute video. But it's mostly photos, about 500 of them. Most aren't that big, 10-18 MB, 5000x3500 pixels.

I am at least able to run the thing through compressor, which takes FOREVER.

Workarounds? Forget it. Why do I have to have work arounds? FCP should just work.

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
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Michael Kammes
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 24, 2011 at 11:42:14 pm

Didn't you read above?

GFX above 3000px...BAD. Crashing / out of memory, not unexpected.

FCP, like any app, has limitations. You've found one. If you can't deal with it...FCPX is pretty cheap.

~Michael



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Trevor Ward
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 25, 2011 at 12:25:02 am

Yeah, I get it. But it's not like a 5000x3500 pixel image is an unreasonable image size. It came from a Canon prosumer camera. It's not like it's a 20,000 pixel by 40,000 pixel image.

Actually, perhaps FCPX IS the answer. AE is too slow, waiting for renders. I don't own Premiere and am not ready to give up on FC. But ARGHHH!

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
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Jon Chappell
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 25, 2011 at 6:02:47 am

5k is IMAX resolution. It's pretty big.

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Trevor Ward
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 25, 2011 at 11:04:01 am

But a 18MB picture isn't abnormal. It's quite common. I can buy a camera for $200 that takes 15mb pictures that I might want to throw into my production.

You're missing the point, and so is Apple. I'm not making a 5000x3500 video. AE doesn't seem to freak out. I hear that AVID works well with pictures. I'm sure Premiere works too.

-trevor ward
Red Eye Film Co.
http://www.redeyefilmco.com
orlando, fl


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Michael Kammes
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Aug 25, 2011 at 2:29:51 pm

I get the impression you're not gonna be happy with any answer, but I feel compelled to try yet again:

FCP is a video editor. Not a picture editor. Video, in the HD realm, tops out at 1920 x 1080. This is far less than than the 3K or higher you mentioned.

FCP was written at a time when 18MB pictures were NOT the norm. This is now a problem. Which leads to....

Apple DOES get the point. That's why FCP X exists. FCP X remedies your issue. Technology moves, man. So does your camera, and so must your software.


AE is an EFFECTS editor....NOT a video editor. We do not live in a world where one program does EVERYTHING the best. Thus, we have multiple tools.

Avid, FWIW, can't handle anything larger than 1920 x 1080. Point to a 5K image? Avid resizes to the size of the project. Hey, at least FCP can handle 2 + 2.5 K.

Premiere? yes, Premiere handles larger images. Not all NLEs are created the same....if they were, what kind of market place would we have?

Hundreds of thousands of people for several years have had to deal with this limitation. So do you. If this is the least of the things I have to worry about during the day with my VIDEO NLE, then I'm thrilled.

~Michael



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Terry Simpson
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Nov 25, 2011 at 2:23:14 am

Excellent advice, all. Thank you so much! Both the reason and a process for troubleshooting. One 18 sec segment was saying it would take 1 hour 43 minutes in Compressor, before it Failed. There was a single 3.5k x 5k px image. I had been using it scaled to only about 11%. After I resized it to 1900x1400, the segment rendered in like 45 seconds. What make it tough was that the section with a single oversize pix was surrounded by 2 segments that used Magic Bullet Denoiser, a very render intensive plugin. So I thought THAT was the culprit.

Anybody want to suggest the fastest workflow for resizing these stills? Right now, I /export/still>png, open it in Photoshop or even Preview and resize it. I have another project to deal with htat has a couple dozen stills that are pretty big.

Thanks again.

Terry


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Jon Chappell
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Nov 25, 2011 at 2:33:19 am

Automator has a Scale Images task. Photoshop has a batch processing function too but I've never used it so I'm not sure if image scaling is included in batch mode.

My software:
Pro Maintenance Tools - Tools to keep Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Pro X, Avid Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro running smoothly and fix problems when they arise
Pro Media Tools - Edit QuickTime chapters and metdata, detect gamma shifts, edit markers, watch renders and more
More tools...


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Amanda Mascia
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jan 28, 2014 at 5:10:41 pm

I just wanted to say THANK YOU!
Your insight into changing the image size to lesser than 2000 was spot on! I had a huge project I was working on, that has a million photos, and it was rendering fine in previous versions until just today. I got the dreaded "Error Out of Memory" and wanted to cry. By resizing the photos it now renders NO PROBLEM!
You totally saved me!
:)


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Twojay Dhillon
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Nov 18, 2012 at 7:01:51 pm

I just ran into this problem for the first time. I use FCP only to re-edit my own personal reel and have zero GFX/SFX in my reel, so when I saw the error I freaked out.

I added a 1080p video to the bin and clicked it to play it in the viewer window, however, I got the error message.

Being totally inexperienced, I safeguarded what I had done up to that point and also made a new sequence with the same settings. I dragged the clips onto the timeline and rendered them (yay?!). After render was complete, I simply copied and pasted the clips to their final sequence and no error message came up.

Hope this helps somebody that is also as computer/FCP incompetent as myself!


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Albert Morel
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jul 15, 2014 at 9:49:46 am

Hello everyone

Great stuff to read on this thread and very helpful. I am also working on a project that mainly contains large still images on FCP7. Way too large I believe. I get the Out of memory problem as well now and I have just realised that all the images I have in my project are about 8085 x 5418 in frame size, which I guess is far too big for fcp right?

My question is what is the easiest way to scale down the image size of all the images and at what size should they be brought down to? Hope someone are able to help me, it would be greatly appreciated.


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Trevor Ward
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jul 15, 2014 at 6:07:19 pm

My suggestion would be to scale them in Photoshop or similar. You can re-size them to just above the resolution of your timeline sequence settings (wither 1920x1080 or 1280x720).

OR, export the sequence as XML and import into Premiere. Premiere handles the large images with no problem.

-Trevor F. Ward
Red Eye Film Co.
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Lisa Purisima
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jul 19, 2013 at 1:24:19 pm

Hey,

Having a jpeg in there can give the same error. Changing your sequence settings to render at 8 bit instead of 10 will solve the problem too.


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Welyon Sutjipto
Re: FCP "Out of Memory" Error
on Jan 13, 2015 at 5:44:47 am

Amongst other things that I've found to cause this error, sometimes images from clients come from the print domain, and JPEGs could have been set to CMYK color. This will cause FCP7 to just stop rendering and giving you an error message that can be a bitch to figure out.

As much as technology and software is moving ahead, unfortunately a lot of the clients and prod houses that I work for aren't progressing as fast (institutional level lethargy with regards to investments in new tech) so FCP7 is likely to remain for the next few years to come, at least in this part of the world for me (Singapore).

I've started throwing more complex graphics and pictures/stills into Motion 4, which handles these a lot better. It's not the most reliable software around, but I find where there is FCP7 there is almost always Motion, so i hope it helps someone

Welyon Sutjipto
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