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Angela Zumbrum
New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 3:10:25 pm

I am editing with FCP version 6.0.6. We recently switched our cameras to Panasonic AG-HMC40 AVCCAM HD Camcorder. I am importing the footage into FCP. FCP is dragging and very slow. I need guidance on what I need to change all of my FCP setting to. I am new to the HD world. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!!!


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Chris Tompkins
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 3:30:49 pm

View the "Tapeless WorkFlow" tutorial by Shane Ross here on the cow.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Rafael Amador
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 3:31:29 pm

Hi Angela,
HD requires more processing power than SD.
Are you using L&T?
This is a great introduction for your workflow:
ttp://library.creativecow.net/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/1
Once your stuff is Prores, you edit as usual.
Rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Shane Ross
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 4:57:00 pm

Tapeless Workflow for FCP 7 Tutorial

Just fixing the link Raf...you forgot the "h" in http..

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def


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Rafael Amador
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 6:50:24 pm

Sorry about (where are my glasses?).
BTW, you have any idea of how may clicks have the tutorial?
I'm sure must be one of the video related docs more trafficked in the last few months in Internet.
Raf

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 7:07:17 pm

HI thank you for your help. Actually, the footage has already been transfered from the camera's card onto an external hardrive. The cameras are being used, so the people that I work with never actually give me the card.

I copied the footage from the hard drive to my computer and brought it into FCP that way. All of the clips are .mov files. Is this really bad? The footage looks great, but is very slow. There is no way I can edit this way. Should I change the sequence settings and FCP preferences?

Thanks!


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Rafael Amador
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 7:24:58 pm

Your media must be now Prores.
I don't know about your system and what are you trying to do, so I can't know if your slow performance is normal or not.
Try to easy he RT setting (Unlimited RT).
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 7:35:30 pm

Changed to Unlimited RT and is still dragging. I am using

Mac OSX 10.5.8

Processor: 2x2.8 GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon

Memory 2GB 800Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM

I watched the tutorial that you recommended, and tried to log the footage. However, FCP will not open these clips, saying that file format is not supported. How would I change these .mov clips to prores?

Thank you for replying so quickly.


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Chris Tompkins
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 8:45:22 pm

Did you try Importing the files? Not L&T?
If FCP won't open the files then you need new files.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Rafael Amador
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:03:43 pm

[Angela Zumbrum] "Changed to Unlimited RT and is still dragging. I am using

Mac OSX 10.5.8

Processor: 2x2.8 GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon

Memory 2GB 800Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM"

Where are you storing the media?
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:11:59 pm

Here is my path thus far:

Dragged the files from external drive to my internal hard drive.

Next, "Imported" the files into FCP.

I can open the files after import....but when I try to view them..they drag and FCP almost shuts down.

When I tried to L&T it would not allow me to. So importing was my only option.


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Garrett Evans
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:24:02 pm

If your raw footage in inside an AVCHD folder from your camera, that whole folder has to come into the L&T window for it to work...sorry if this isn't helpful, but I've had people give me a .MTS file, which is worthless in L&T.

MacPro OSX 10.6.6 2x2.26 QCIX 10GB 1066MHz DDR3 FCP7.0.3/FCS3
FCSvr1.5 Xsan2.2 DotHill 24TB QlogicSANbox 8GB ATTO 8GB


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Shane Ross
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:24:58 pm

YOu are doing things wrong. WAY wrong. Did you watch my tutorial on tapeless? You need to backup the ENTIRE CARD first. Everything, not just some folder inside the SD card...the ENTIRE card. You copy that to a separate, external hard drive. That is your archive.

THEN you use Log and Transfer and point to those backup files. If you didn't back up the full card, L&T won't work. And File>IMPORT won't work either, as FCP doesn't work with these files natively.

If you don't have the full file structure, you might need to look into separate software to do this, like Clipwrap2. There is a demo of that available.

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:35:26 pm

Yes, I did watch your tutorial. And, I understand it completely. The problem is, that someone else transfered the footage from the card to the drive that I am now using. I am trying to figure out if this person copied everything. I am assuming that this is the problem.

Thank you for your help.

One more thing.... Is it normal that these files are .mov? Even if she didn't copy everything...what should the file type be from this camera?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/625605-REG/Panasonic_AG_HMC40PJU_AG_H...

Thanks again.


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Shane Ross
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:42:16 pm

You should have a folder that has the following file structure:



If you have a MOV file, they might have already converted for you. GET INFO on that file (select the file, then FILE>GET INFO) and tell us what the codec is...under MORE INFO

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 10:43:57 pm

Dimensions 1920x1080

Codecs MPEG-4 Video, AAC

This is what the mov file is.

Thank you Shane..


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Shane Ross
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 7, 2011 at 12:35:33 am

AH...that's not an editing codec. They must have imported the footage, then converted to something small enough to...well, be small. And gave you that. You have to convert it to ProRes. Compressor does this in the ADVANCED FORMAT CONVERSIONS area. Now, quality will not be as good as it could Far from it. AVCHD converted to something, then compressed to something else, then something else....that;s a lot of smooshing.

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 7, 2011 at 1:17:06 am

Shane...

You have certainly been helpful. I cannot thank you enough.

I spoke with my "videographer" and she still has the files on her computer that came from the camera card. They are .mts files. I am considering trying to get all of the FILES that she has and then trying Log and Transfer again. However, the card has been ERASED! Hopefully she has everything that I need.

If not - I will try the conversion that you mentioned.

Is it good news that she has the .mts file???? Everything just seems to be so separated. The tutorial that I watched earlier seemed to really stress keeping everything "as is" from the card to the drive.

Last question - I am editing weddings. Do you think that a BRIDE, who has no video knowledge whatsoever would recognize all of the compression? Or do you think that it will still appear to be HD to the "naked" eye" if I must compress once again.

THANK YOU SHANE!!!!!!!


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Shane Ross
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 7, 2011 at 6:40:20 am

Email the tutorial link to the "videographer," so they can see how to properly do things.

[Angela Zumbrum] "Is it good news that she has the .mts file???? Everything just seems to be so separated."

If this is all you have, then you need to get third party software to convert it...ClipWrap2 is the best option.

[Angela Zumbrum] "Do you think that a BRIDE, who has no video knowledge whatsoever would recognize all of the compression?"

Well, test it and see if you notice it. If you do, she might. If you don't, she won't.

Shane

GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def


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Rafael Amador
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:25:26 pm

[Angela Zumbrum] "Dragged the files from external drive to my internal hard drive.
"

That slows everything down.
You must keep your media in an external HD if you don't want FC slugish, and you need an storage with a certain speed to work comfortable. An eSATA RAID would be great to edit your Prores stuff on your MBP.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Chris Tompkins
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 6, 2011 at 9:39:26 pm

ya, mov files are to be imported.
Can you do that?

If not, open up the file in QT and grab a pic of the specs for us.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 30, 2011 at 1:33:30 pm

Hi Guys!

Finally got all of the .MTS file transferred to ProRes. Footage is in FCP and now everything seems to be working fine. However, I am uncertain about my sequence settings. What should I have all of my sequence settings at? I tried searching this topic, before asking, but can't seems to find a complete break down. Thank you for your help!


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Chris Tompkins
Re: New to HD in FCP
on May 30, 2011 at 2:25:16 pm

Your sequence should match your clips.

You shot 1920X1080.
Do you convert to Prores 1080?
Are you @ 60i or 30p or 24p?

Look @ your clips in the browser.
Drop a clip into a new sequence and let FCP change sequence settings to match.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC


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Angela Zumbrum
Re: New to HD in FCP
on Jun 9, 2011 at 11:43:17 am

It's me again! I am finally done with this HD edit, and exporting. I have been reading other posts and this is what I have tried so far:

Export quicktime - current settings
Export quicktime - apple ProRes22

and I have now used compressor using DVD BEst 150 min. leaving me with m2v and ac3 files.

Here is my problem: The video is dragging after dvd burn, and even worse, it's a tiny box in the middle of the screen??? It doesn't fill the screen? Is this something that I have done wrong in FCP? or during my exporting?

Thank you for your help.

Also, will idvd support HD?


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