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Mark Suszko
Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 2:10:04 pm

I want your opinion: Shooting in 720p or 1080, what is the best way to remove or minimize temporal artifacting, once you're handed the raw footage?


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Bouke Vahl
Re: Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 2:39:39 pm

[Mark Suszko] "temporal artifacting"

What is that?
Pulldown is not 'arifacting'...

If you can get the shooter to shoot Advanced pulldown, it is very easy, no render involved, just remove the unwanted frames.
Several ways to do so.

Normal pulldown can be removed without harm also, but that requires a render.

Bouke

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Dave LaRonde
Re: Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 3:05:52 pm

Got a Panasonic camera? I'm pretty sure that at 720, they all can shoot 24pN, which is 23.976 actual frames a second. You don't have to do a blessed thing to it.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Scott Sheriff
Re: Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 3:13:04 pm

Mark,
Do you mean you're seeing jitter when you convert to 29.97?
If so that's because progressive 24 to 29.97 pulldown is 2-2-2-4 since there is no 'half-frame' like in interlaced to do 2-3 pulldown.

Scott Sheriff
Director
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I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed...


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Mark Suszko
Re: Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 3:19:32 pm

The clients like the "film look" of 24p shooting but the motion judder looks too distracting to me. I want to give them CLEAN 24p footage that doesn't haev that slightly stroboscopic distraction to it. We shoot with a Panny 900 on DVCpro HD, so I'm pretty sure we can shoot 24N. I wanted to know what specific steps on ingest and in the timeline and on export/ render to h.264 I should be doing, to minimize that flicker.


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John Heagy
Re: Best practices for removing pulldown and 24p flicker?
on May 2, 2011 at 11:03:29 pm

Either increase the shutter angle to increase motion blur or shoot a higher frame rate... 30p would help a bit.

The new "film look"...

http://the-hobbitmovie.com/peter-jackson-answers-why-48-fps-for-the-hobbit/


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