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Jay Soriano
NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 11, 2011 at 11:24:08 pm

Been keeping a close eye on NAB 2011 with Matrox and BlackMagic Design first out of the gate with Thunderbolt technology including pricing/availability.

Haven't heard anything new yet on storage since the Thunderbolt Macbook Pros were announced. Anyone at NAB hear anything new on Thunderbolt storage? Anyone stop by the Promise, Lacie, Caldigit, G-Technology or istorage pro booths? Any pricing/availability? Thanks!


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Russell Lasson
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 3:04:34 am

Everything I've read is saying that July-ish is when Thunderbolt enabled devices are coming out.

Russ

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David Roth Weiss
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 3:34:09 am

TBolt storage devices are apparently in use at many of the NAB booths, so that should give some optimism.

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moody glasgow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 3:50:23 am

I was at the G-tech booth earlier today and they had they little 4 disk RAID that was running on thunderbolt. It was a tech demo, and I heard that it won't be available until Q3. As far as I could tell, they had a PCI card connected to the Thunderbolt port, then connected to the RAID. (I might have this backwards, I didnt get that good of a look at it.)

Anyway, they were showing speeds over 500 MB/s using AJA speed test.

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David Roth Weiss
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 4:02:40 am

[moody glasgow] "they were showing speeds over 500 MB/s using AJA speed test."

That's pretty good... About 2 to three times faster than most 4-drive units. It suggests that an 8-drive RAID would really speedy. Typical 8-drive hardware raids hit about 450 MB/s, hardware RAIDS with the newer intel chips get 950 plus MB/s, so those may double or triple or maybe even possibly go higher that that.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 9:33:20 am

Don't forget Sonnet:

http://sonnettech.com/news/nab2011/index.html

Jeremy


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Jason Jenkins
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 1:26:14 pm

Wow! This will really be a boon to mobile editing.

Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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Jeremy Garchow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 2:02:06 pm

I have a couple of their eSata F2 drives and they are bad ass.

A daisy chainable thunderbolt version will be even more bad assified.

Just making up words here, :)

Jeremy


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Jason Jenkins
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:21:49 pm

Fusion™ F2TBR; a Raid0, 500MB/per second array that's only slightly bigger than two CD cases? That's crazy cool. Is that puppy bus-powered too? Just slip it into your laptop case with your Macbook Pro and you're good to go.

Jason Jenkins
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Jeremy Garchow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:24:30 pm

[Jason Jenkins] " that puppy bus-powered too?"

The eSata ones are powered off a firewire port as there's no Sata bus power. Thunderbolt has bus power, I do believe. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Jeremy


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Jay Soriano
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:50:37 pm

Thanks Jeremy! Just wondering now if I should save the money of purchasing a 17" MBP and just go with a 2011 15" Macbook Pro without the need of an express card slot...I mainly use the express card slot w/ my mxo2 mini...but now with their Thunderbolt adaptor...hmmm...

All I know is that these are exciting times! FCP 2011, please don't let us down....


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:53:21 pm

[Jay Soriano] "Thanks Jeremy! Just wondering now if I should save the money of purchasing a 17" MBP and just go with a 2011 15" Macbook Pro without the need of an express card slot..."

Honestly, I wouldn't. best to keep them both up and running for a while anyway. thunderbolt is too new to trust at this point.


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Jay Soriano
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:57:28 pm

True! Very True! 17" it is...


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 5:59:18 pm

[Jay Soriano] "True! Very True! 17" it is..."

Too new to trust was a bit harsh. I guess I should have said too new to build an edit suite around when things are still "technology previews". The Express slot will buy you some time until things are really ready for thunderbolt. It could be a little while.


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moody glasgow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 9:48:08 pm

Went back and took a picture...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1650628113016&set=a.1019626658374.20...

moody glasgow
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Jason Jenkins
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:02:14 pm

Picture is "unavailable"?

Jason Jenkins
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David Roth Weiss
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:03:42 pm

[moody glasgow] "Went back and took a picture...
"


What happened? The link seems to have gone bad.

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moody glasgow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:21:51 pm

Here's a laptop playing back a 4k dpx sequence in premiere, using a Promise TBolt RAID.




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Jay Soriano
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:31:32 pm

Thanks for the photos Moody? Did you happen to stop by the Caldigit or istorage pro booths? Haven't heard anything TB related from them. Thanks!


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moody glasgow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:16:02 pm



This should work...

moody glasgow
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moody glasgow
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55:20 pm

The only other TBolt drives I saw were Lacie. They had 4 drives daisy chained together.

moody glasgow
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Winston A. Cely
Re: NAB 2011: Thunderbolt Storage?
on Jun 1, 2011 at 5:56:55 pm

So, I'm guessing there's been no new news on any Thunderbolt drive enclosures? Specifically something that will allow you to buy a "tray" to put in a new hard drive so your projects can be drive specific?

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