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Joe Schubert
Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 6:44:00 pm

I recently saw a film that was edited in Final Cut. I had a chance to listen to the editor speak. He mentioned a cut that he did for a scene that involved cutting out every other frame. Does anyone know how to achieve this?

Thanks!


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 6:55:17 pm

With a lot of painstaking work. Many cuts. It took a long time.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Scott Sheriff
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 8:07:31 pm

Dave,
"With a lot of painstaking work. Many cuts. It took a long time."

What, there's not a plugin for that?

Scott Sheriff
Director
http://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed...


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Richard Herd
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 9:03:16 pm

Another cool trick is to cut the frames, select every other one, and drag them in front of the cuts-where-they-belong...make sense? It's very nifty.

Should be: 1.2.3.4.5.6
Changes to: 2.1.4.3.6.5


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Joe Schubert
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 9:54:06 pm

Hey that does sound cool!
But part of the question (as small time as it sounds) is if there is a keyboard shortcut to select every other frame in a sequence.


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Joey Burnham
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:14:03 pm

Nope. Just grab your blade tool and zoom in as far as you can. Click away.

Joey


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Andy Mees
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 8, 2011 at 5:04:53 am

That does not sound cool at all .. thats horrible. Like bad field order. YOMV.


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Joe Schubert
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 9:51:42 pm

What?


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Michael Gissing
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:23:41 pm

Cutting every second frame sound like speeding the clip up to 200% and turning frame blending off no?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:30:36 pm

Yeah, but the director could have been wary of degrading the image by speeding it up, thus doing it the hard way.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:37:19 pm

[Joe Schubert] "What?"
  • Zoom all the way into the clip
  • Select the blade tool
  • After the first frame, make a cut
  • After the second frame, make a cut
  • Highlight the second frame, the one with the cuts
  • Do a Ripple Delete
  • Proceed to the next frame and repeat the procedure


Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Michael Gissing
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:39:39 pm

Or write a macro.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 7, 2011 at 11:44:37 pm

[Scott Sheriff] "What, there's not a plugin for that?"

Shhhhh.... I just read about a script called dotheeditforme.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Scott Sheriff
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 8, 2011 at 12:27:25 am

Dave,
"Shhhhh.... I just read about a script called dotheeditforme."

Funny thing. This is something at least two of the linear systems I worked on could do without building a user key list ripple.
Set the edit duration, then leave the number of frames (+ forward,- reverse) to skip in the scratchpad, and hit 'auto-animate'. Voila', skip frame animation is generated while you sit there enjoying your coffee and Snickers.

Scott Sheriff
Director
http://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed...


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 8, 2011 at 12:37:27 am

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember making a time-lapse of puffy white clouds on a fine spring day using 60 minutes of locked-down sky video and a Grass Valley edit controller.

I'll be darned if I remember the keystrokes, though.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Rafael Amador
Re: Frame editing
on Mar 8, 2011 at 2:27:42 am

To get rid of one in two frames you only need to speed the clip up 200% and no Frame Blending.
But you do not explain what you want achieve.
You want just to get rid of the frames?
Do you want to leave a hole/black on the place?
Do you want to replace the frame?
You can play with the Strobe and the Blink filters.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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