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Jay Soriano
So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:17:44 pm

2011 Macbook Pro 15" vs. 17" have similar specs with one of the main differences being the expresscard slot still only available on the 17". With Thunderbolt technology built in, is an expresscard slot still a necessity for FCP editors?


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Andy Mees
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:24:55 pm

Unless or until the third party vendors currently using ExpressCard host bus adaptors for their products bring Thunderbolt host bus adaptors for those same product to market then yes, the slots are still pretty darn useful for the existing products. As we move into the future we may very likely see the same third party vendors dropping the ExpressCard adaptors from their newer products ... but that is then, not now. Also consider that Thunderbolt allows 2 full duplex 10 Gb channels ... add an ExpressCard and you have an additional 5Gb channel. Thats a good thing. More is more.


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Steven Gladstone
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:38:16 pm

[Andy Mees] "Also consider that Thunderbolt allows 2 full duplex 10 Gb channels ... add an ExpressCard and you have an additional 5Gb channel. Thats a good thing. More is more."

Ahh, but will it be on a separate bus?

Likewise with the USB ports, are they all on a separate bus?

How can I find out, I've often wondered.

Steven Gladstone
http://www.gladstonefilms.com


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Chris Babbitt
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:27:10 pm

I use the express card slot for downloading the SxS cards from my EX camera. Much faster and more convenient than USB from the camera or card reader.



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Jonathan Ziegler
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:30:21 pm

I have an SDHC card reader there. It's faster than USB and I don't need a separate device. :) Also good for network connectivity, wifi, esata add-on, additional firewire, etc. Thunderbolt just came out and there are hardly any devices for it. The vast majority of my setup is Firewire, FW-800, and tons of USB. Even if I buy a new mac with Thunderbird, it'll be a while before there's tons of hardware for it and I'm heavily invested in it - I'll still be using FW/FW-800 for a while.

Jonathan Ziegler
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Martin Curtis
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 10:07:05 pm

The 15" MBP comes with an SDXC slot. It would be interesting to see how fast its transfer rate is compared to the Express Card slot readers.


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Jason Brown
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 7:56:02 pm

Not only SxS cards, but also if you are using Matrox I/O or the Max chip in the I/O box for h264 encoding you need an ExpressCard slot.

U would also need it if you have any eSATA devices.

-Jason


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Dennis Leppell
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 11:34:59 pm

In a dream world, an adapter/accessory will be available to harness that extra throughput. One that would have an expresscard slot, another firewire 800 or two, and a couple esata ports. Bonus points for HDMI!

If this comes into being, it would also really help out the current port limitations on the iMac!



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Andy Mees
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Feb 28, 2011 at 11:47:46 pm

[Jason Brown] "...if you are using Matrox I/O or the Max chip in the I/O box for h264 encoding you need an ExpressCard slot. "

On that point Jason, we've already been speculating (in another thread) that Thunderbolt host bus adaptors for existing PCIe over Cable devices are highy likely to appear, at which point those devices would no longer be tethered solely to ExpressCard ... hence the topic of the thread.

[Jason Brown] "U would also need it if you have any eSATA devices."

Same speculation again.


For those working with SxS cards ( although I'd expect to see Thunderbolt adaptors for SxS come to market in due course too) I would think the dedicated ExpressCard slot definitely remains a major attraction.


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Rafael Amador
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29:43 am

I have my e-SATA RAIDS connected through the Express slot, and also a little FW800/Express adaptor that gives me 2 extra FW800 buses.
The Express slot is a life saver.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Jay Soriano
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Mar 1, 2011 at 6:19:57 pm

My thoughts exactly why I started this thread Andy as you mentioned I/O manufacturers adding the option of TB connectivity. I'm assuming those currently using an MXO2 mini w/ an express card would be able to simply buy a TB connector instead of purchasing a whole new MXO2 Mini w/ TB?

I'm convinced that the express card slot is important. Will go with the 17" Macbook Pro. :)


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Steven Gladstone
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Mar 1, 2011 at 8:42:22 pm

I agree about the express card slot, but as soon as an express card reader to thunderbolt adapter becomes available, the need for an express card in the laptop kind of goes away. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about more Thunderbolt adapters.

By the way, my biggest complaint about the express card, is the lack of positive locking on it. With the DUEL P2 adapter, it could just slide right out, ended up taping the adapter to the computer. I hope Thunderbolt doesn't suffer a similar flaw.

Hmm might be some money in an aluminum bracket that locks the Thunderbolt cable to the computer.

Steven Gladstone
http://www.gladstonefilms.com


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Andy Mees
Re: So now what is the expresscard slot good for?
on Mar 2, 2011 at 12:27:23 am

>I'm assuming those currently using an MXO2 mini w/ an express card would be able to simply buy a TB connector instead of purchasing a whole new MXO2 Mini w/ TB?

Yep, that would certainly be my guess. Down the line, TB native, but in the interim TB adaptors.


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