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Tim Silva
Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 4:44:31 pm

A client gave me a movie clip generated with a KODAK Zi8 Pocket Video Camera. The codec is apparently Ambarella AVC encoder, 1280 x 720, 59.94. Quicktime plays the file without any trouble. FCP 6.0.6 won't import the file - wrong file type or some such nonsense. I've tried converting the clip to H.264 and Apple Pro Res. Same problem. I've changed the permissions on the file to make sure that wasn't the issue. I'm stumped. Any thoughts?

Thanks - Tim


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Rafael Amador
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 4:53:12 pm

[Tim Silva] "FCP 6.0.6 won't import the file - wrong file type or some such nonsense. "
There is a list of supported FC codecs.
FC is a video editing tool. Those are delivery codecs; no for editing.

[Tim Silva] "I've tried converting the clip to H.264 "
Bad choice. Another non supported codec.

Use MPGStreamclip to convert your movie to Prores.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 5:01:52 pm

Already converted to ProRes. Didn't work.



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Michael Kammes
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 5:43:14 pm

Once converted to Pro Res, does the file play at the OS level?

If you can play the raw AVC file at the OS level, have you tried using QT to do the conversion to Pro res? (Since you have FCP, the Pro ability is built into QT 7).

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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:26:22 pm

Yes, I used QT to make the ProRes version and that didn't work.



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Rafael Amador
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 5:50:01 pm

[Tim Silva] "Already converted to ProRes. Didn't work."
With MPGStreamclip?
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:27:18 pm

I have not tried the conversion with MPGDStreamclip. Would that make a difference?



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Rafael Amador
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 7:37:00 pm

[Tim Silva] "I have not tried the conversion with MPGDStreamclip. Would that make a difference?"
Try it. Is one of our best resources, and if FC and QT are able to read the file, is very possible MPGStreamclip can do the conversion.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:11:22 pm

If it's AVC, have you tried log and transfer?


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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:27:53 pm

I have not tried Log and Transfer but will.



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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:31:16 pm

I can't get the file into FCP for Log and Capture.



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:34:35 pm

Please post a screen grab of what the file structure looks like.


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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 28, 2011 at 6:41:31 pm

Thanks for all the responses. Unfortunately I have to run out for a meeting and will be out the rest of the day - hopefully can pick this up on Monday! Thanks again!

Tim



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Rick Williams
Re: Can't import QT file
on Jan 29, 2011 at 2:15:58 am

Hi Tim,

Coincidentally, I have another post related to the AVC files from the Kodak Zi8, "HD AVC is not necessarily AVCHD ", where I am trying to explain this. But rather then getting into that...to start with, I have used the Zi8 and it works great in iMovie and does also work in Final Cut Express and Final Cut Pro (with some caveats). However, these are the latest versions of FCE and FCP, not 6.0.6.

However, you said that even as a ProRes it didn't work, which is very odd. Certainly 6.0.6 should support Prores. I'm not surprised at all that the Log&Transfer does not work since they are not technically "AVCHD" video files. Yes they may be "hi-def", and yes they are AVC (a.k.a H.264 or MPEG4-part10), but to be AVCHD there are other parameters and file structures that must be conformed to.

Have you tried the following ?

- Start a new project and sequence
- Under Sequence Settings > Video Processing, set the Render setting to "Render in 8-bit YUV"
- for now use one of the Apple Intermediate Codec settings for the Sequence
- use File > Import >Movies to import the Zi8 video

If this works, when you add the first clip to this new project sequence, you should get the dialog that says something about your Sequence and Clip settings not matching, and do you want to change the Sequence settings to match. Do what you want at this point, although if they don't match, you'll be seeing a lot of red video render bars.

--Good luck


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Tim Silva
Re: Can't import QT file - Update Solved...?
on Jan 31, 2011 at 3:51:27 pm

OK, so I converted the clip again to ProRes this time taking Rafael's advice using MPGStreamclip. That worked. I don't know why, but it worked. At least I can now pass the converted clip on to my client. Thanks to all for all the help and attention!

Tim

Tim Silva
Multimedia Coordinator
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution



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