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Rick Holland
create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 8:54:34 pm

Hello,

I have a client that needs to place himself in a spaceships control room. Instead of buying one of the few reality sets that are available I'd like to use a picture of the Starship Enterprise that he has supplied from a collectors book.

Is it possible to scan this picture and use it in with our green screen shot 1920x1080 footage? Any scanning workflow suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Rick Holland


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David Roth Weiss
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 9:09:26 pm

The answer depends on way too many things to get yourself a definitive answer.

For instance, number one of all would be, how high are your client's expectations?

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Rick Holland
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 9:46:24 pm

We want this to look like a $10 million dollar shoot for pennies! ;) I figured stating that we are using 1920x1080 footage would be sufficient in gaining some help. Let's jut say this will live on the web only and for his practice as an entertainment attorney. This is low budget and he understands that. Expectations are B-Movie style.

Rick


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Michael Kammes
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 10:47:02 pm

Does the client need to interact with the background?

Lightwave is used quite a bit, and TriCaster uses them for reflections, "3D" environments where a filmed subject can be in back and also in front of the background, etc.

Generically, After Effects, Photoshop, FCP and Avid are used. Hell, if there is no interaction needed, then ANYTHING can be used to create your 2D background - it's a flat image / video.

Some pointers:

If using a graphic program, keep in mind round pixels vs square pixels. If you don't, you image will become stretched.

Match lighting on the background graphic as well as subject on green screen. It helps sell the illusion.

As always, do not skimp on lighting (and someone who knows how to light) A bad key is the best way to sell a bad effect. Also, don;t be afraid to transcode your footage of the subject into a more roust codec for better keying. Try Primatte or Ultimatte as video plugins for keyying.

Good Luck!

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David Roth Weiss
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 10:49:55 pm

The more foreground elements you can put in the frame the better... It's certainly worth a try.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™


A forum host of Creative COW's Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 10:58:11 pm

[Rick Holland] "I have a client that needs to place himself in a spaceships control room. Instead of buying one of the few reality sets that are available I'd like to use a picture of the Starship Enterprise that he has supplied from a collectors book."

Have you contacted Paramount to negotiate a fee for the rights to the image?
Or are you willing to take your chances that you and your client won't be discovered and sued for using it without permission?

Once your client hears about that possibility, I bet a virtual set you buy starts looking better all the time.
And since he's an ENTERTAINMENT attorney, how the heck did he even dream that he'd be able to use such images for free?

Did he snake-oil-salesman you into signing some document that puts YOU on the hook for the lawsuit, or something?

CYA!!! Buy the stinkin' vvirtual set!!!

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Rick Holland
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 11:22:16 pm

Funny! Again, this is a low budget spoof for his website and client base only. It's hosted on his site and via flash. It's not for broadcast, youtube, vimeo, etc.

It's interesting just how many posters / moderators here on CC repeatedly avoid helping with a solution to the main question and seem to relish in being able to share their wit and personal opinions.

None the less I found my solution on using scanned photo's in FCP projects via a Google search as usual.

Cheers


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Martin Curtis
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 11:42:19 pm

[Rick Holland] "It's interesting just how many posters / moderators here on CC repeatedly avoid helping with a solution to the main question and seem to relish in being able to share their wit and personal opinions. "

Some of us have been bitten by those sharks. Putting a poem in an obscure newsletter on our obscure website cost my movie club ~$5000. Not my finest moment.


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Mark Suszko
Re: create virtual set
on Jan 4, 2011 at 11:46:47 pm

It's funny that your lawyer friend is apparently unfamiliar with copyright law.

You can find legal and inexpensive or even free spaceship control room shots at a place like Turbosquid.com and Google's Sketch-Up store, for example.


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