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Jeff Coleman
Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 2, 2010 at 7:43:56 pm

I have movie files imported into FCP from Sony EX-3 SxS cards via XDCam Transfer utility.
The footage is 1920x1080 30p.
I've put these files into Compressor and converted them to ProRes 422 HQ SD, 16x9 Anamorphic (see bottom for summary settings).
They resultant SD movie looks terribly jaggy and soft.
I've tried FCS2 and FCS3 with the same result.
I've tried successfully using Squeeze to convert these files and they look good using Squeeze, but take a lot longer to convert.

What settings do you use to convert these HD EX movies into SD movies?

Name: Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) HD to SD 720x486psf 16x9
Description: Apple ProRes 422 video with audio pass-through. Settings based off the source resolution and frame-rate.
File Extension: mov
Estimated size: 28.28 GB/hour of source
Audio: multi-track passthrough
Video Encoder
Format: QT
Width: 720
Height: 486
Pixel aspect ratio: NTSC CCIR 601/DV (16:9)
Crop: None
Padding: (L: 0, T: 2, R: 0, B: 4)
Frame rate: (100% of source)
Selected: 29.97
Frame Controls: Automatically selected: Off
Codec Type: Apple ProRes 422 (HQ)
Multi-pass: Off, frame reorder: Off
Automatic gamma correction
Progressive
Chroma filtering enabled
Pixel depth: 24
Spatial quality: 50
Min. Spatial quality: 0
Temporal quality: 0
Min. temporal quality: 0

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FCS3
FCP 7.0.3
OS 10.5.8
QT 7.6.6


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Shane Ross
Re: Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 2, 2010 at 7:50:54 pm

It takes longer because it is probably doing better calculations with the conversion. To get Compressor to do this, you need to go to the Inspector, and to the FRAME CONTROLS in there, and turn all the FRAME CONTROLS to the BEST settings.

Why are you making this SD? Just curious...

Shane



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Jeff Coleman
Re: Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 2, 2010 at 7:58:44 pm

I'm converting to SD because half of my footage is SD. Deliverable is web only which we'll do at 16x9.

I'm pretty sure in Frame Controls I looked at changing all the settings to Best, but didn't see any difference in Compressor's Preview window between the settings. The ProRes side of the split screen looked soft and jaggy.

Should I have seen a difference in the Preview window? (monitoring a split screen between orig and downconverted codec settings)
Or would I not see the difference until it output the movie?


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Shane Ross
Re: Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 2, 2010 at 8:07:20 pm

I never see the difference until I output, which is why I do small chunks as tests. There are IN and OUT points in Compressor you can use to encode small chunks, and tweak settings. That PREVIEW window never shows me what I will be getting.

SO you'll be delivering to the web at 720x480 or less? Not in glorious H.264 HD 1280x720? Personally I'd upconvert the SD via Compressor. But I know many wouldn't...

Shane



GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
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Paul Jay
Re: Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 3, 2010 at 2:34:45 am

As Shane said:

Frame Controls: Automatically selected: Off

That's ABSOLUTELY your main issue

In my opinion HD to SD always needs resize filter to BEST to look good in Compressor.
Especially when your source has a codec like HDV or XDCAM EX.


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Jeff Coleman
Re: Compressor Ouputs Ugly ProRes SD from EX-3 Original
on Nov 8, 2010 at 5:23:44 pm

I re-rendered with the frame controls set to "Best" and everything looks good now.
Thank you Shane and Paul.

Love,
Jeff

Final Cut Studio 5.1, G5 2GHz Dual Processr, 2.5Gb RAM, AJA IO


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