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Jeff Halpin
importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 10, 2010 at 8:48:44 pm

Hi there,

I am running FCP 5.0.4 and I am working with a scan of super 8 film scanned at 1920 x 1080 using Apple ProRes / Integer codecs

I am a little baffled at what type of export setting to use for a .mov export -- I realize there will be some border on the r and left edges because the aspect ratio of super8 film is square, but I'd like to get rid of the top and bottom of the window.

This above result would be fine, but on export I get a border all around the image.

I have been selecting differen settings for size and pixel aspect ratio, but I have not found one that works. I've tried 720x540/4:3/square pixels and 768x576 SD with no success at reducing the bottom and top borders.

The final version will be projected, so if anyone has any experience with this phenomenon, please let me know. Any information is greatly appreciated!


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Zak Ray
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 2:25:02 pm

Export at full quality (File > Export > QuickTime Movie), then take that to Compressor to compress further.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:11:54 pm

[Jeff Halpin] "I am running FCP 5.0.4 and I am working with a scan of super 8 film scanned at 1920 x 1080 using Apple ProRes / Integer codecs

I am a little baffled at what type of export setting to use for a .mov export -- I realize there will be some border on the r and left edges because the aspect ratio of super8 film is square"


Say what?

If your footage is 1920x1080, it's 16x9. It wouldn't be 4x3. What's going on?

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Zak Ray
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:16:43 pm

Dave,

I believe he is capturing 8mm film (4:3) on an HD scanner (16:9), hence the pillarboxing.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:25:47 pm

Okay, then the guy's scanner is out of whack, creating little-tiny-narrow lines at top & bottom.

Fixing this is a job for Motion, not FCP.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Zak Ray
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:30:44 pm

Why Motion?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:37:28 pm

[Zak Ray] "Why Motion?"

Better scaling than FCP. Easier to make video in an off-the-wall size like 720x540, which the guy apparently wants to do.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Jeff Halpin
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 7:41:09 pm

To Clarify:

I have a scanned in .mov that was done at 1080p, when I check the properties in "Get Info" I see that the file was scanned at 1920x1080.

I was not sure of how to set the export settings, to 16:8 or 4:3, this is why I posted the question to the forums.

I apologize for taking up valuable time, but I am here to get basic assistance with a not so basic problem.

Thanks again,

Jeff


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Zak Ray
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 8:02:54 pm

Jeff,

If you want to export to square-pixel DV (720x540), you'll probably get the best results by going to Motion (as Dave suggests), or Compressor. If you don't have or don't want to use these applications, you could also change your sequence settings to 720x540 (leave the other settings, such as pixel aspect ratio, the way they are). Then resize the video to fit the frame.


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Jeff Halpin
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:21:29 pm

I am projecting this for a screening and the border around the image is distracting for the space -- I was just using the "off the wall" size of 720 x 540 because is was one of the options smaller than what I was working with -- I'll use this information to get the size I'm looking for, still with pillars, but a better fit overall.

Thanks everyone!


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Zak Ray
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:30:07 pm

If you're projecting it, I would go with a 1440x1080 sequence using square pixels. That way you won't lose any detail from the HD scan.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: importing 1920x1080 .mov into FCP, black border when exporting
on Oct 11, 2010 at 8:04:18 pm

Oh, that's not a big deal, but it would be helpful to know how this stuff is going to get USED.

Personally, if I were doing this -- at 720x540, as you mentioned -- I'd do it in After Effects. It's easy to make a 4x3, 720x540 AE comp, import the scanned film (what's the frame rate?), scale to fit and render.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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