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devon leesley
size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 12:06:33 pm

My project is 56KB. When I send it to Quick Time Movie it ends up 3.87GB. When I import it to Studio Pro it rings up over 18GB. All new to me. What's must I do? thanks.


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 1:04:54 pm

The project file size has very little to do with the size of the QT movies you export from it. QuickTime movies of the same program can be of various sizes depending on the codec used to create them as well, so I'm not sure I understand where your problem lies. How to fit it all on a DVD in DVD SP? If so, then you need to compress your project using an MPEG 2 compression which will make the program work and fit on a DVD. These MPEG files can also be of different sizes even with the same program. The data rate chosen for the compression will determine the actual size of the video files.

Jerry

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Rafael Amador
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 2:39:46 pm

[devon leesley] " When I send it to Quick Time Movie it ends up 3.87GB. When I import it to Studio Pro it rings up over 18GB."
This is something difficult to understand.
Is the first time I heard that DVDSTP increases (multiply) the size of a file.
rafael

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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 3:47:00 pm

DVD SP doesn't make files larger. NO software simply opening a file will make it larger.

If you export a self contained QT movie using current settings, the file size will be constant no matter where it's opened. Non self contained movies will always hold the audio mixed down, but can change size because they must contain renders of un rendered material from the sequence. So they can be of various sizes, and different codecs will make files of various sizes...

Jerry

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 6:21:25 pm

Appreciate your guidance. Now if I can just figure out the steps for making it 'self contained' I may be home. Again, all new to this 60 year old. thanks


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 6:40:43 pm

Choose file/export/quicktime movie...

Then click ON the "Make Self Contained" option. It will be a large file...

Then in DVD SP, open it's preferences, and set the MPEG compression there... it will make the file small enough to fit and be compatible to play a standard Def DVD.

If you'll post the length of your program, I can help you with what settings to use in DVD SP's compression settings found in those preferences.

Jerry

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Sep 23, 2010 at 6:55:31 pm

Appreciate you indulging me. We filmed the movie with an HVX200 in HD. So we'll be needing the final product in HD. I am taking Apple classes in Omaha. Between their help and yours we shall prevail.thanks


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Rafael Amador
Re: size of project
on Sep 24, 2010 at 1:24:19 pm

[devon leesley] ". We filmed the movie with an HVX200 in HD"
Hi Devon,
I guess (I don't use it) that your 3.87GB movie is DVCProHD.
That has a data-rate of around 100 Mbps.
You can compress that a VERY high quality making the file 5 folds smaller.
How do you intend to play your movie?
From the computer, a disk?
Rafael
PS: I'm still wondering how you got 18GBs from 3.87GB in DVDSTP.
DVDSTP makes only MPEG-2 and the

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 11, 2010 at 2:41:17 am

It is our own movie we filmed. Will go to dvd for a master.


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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:52:45 pm

I'm doing something wrong. I sent movie to Quick Time as 'self contained'. It ended up 95 GB's.


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 12:18:03 am

The movie is DVCPROHD in 1080? and how long is the edited film?

Jerry

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 3:25:36 pm

Filmed in 720/24fps. Just under 2 hours. Going to class today. Hope to find the elusive answer.


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 4:34:31 pm

A self contained movie that is of that codec and frame rate SHOULD be that large if it's about 2 hours long.

I think you don't understand that when you make a DVD from this file, it is compressed to MPEG-2 from the DVCPROHD and becomes small enough to fit on a DVD... You can use DVD SP or Compressor to make the files necessary for playback on a DVD from the file you've exported that's nearly 100gb... THe compression settings used will dictate how small or large the resulting file is. You need to make it small enough to fit on a single or dual sided DVD. There are presets in Compressor for this very thing in fact, just apply them to the file you've exported and import the resulting MPEG and audio files into DVD SP for the burn.

Jerry

Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: http://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 5:44:09 pm

I appreciate your time and expertise Jerry. I'll take your notes with me to class today and hopefully my teacher can walk me through the steps. I said it before, this is all new to me. I can write the stories, run the camera, direct the action, and do all the music and even edit film, but some of this high tech stuff is above my pay grade.LOL! thanks.


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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 6:42:39 pm

So confusing that when I send to idvd, i can burn dvd, no problem. When I send it to pro studio, 95gigs.This jungle has some twists and turns for sure.


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: size of project
on Oct 12, 2010 at 9:34:59 pm

That's because iDVD compresses the video when you burn a DVD with it. Playable DVD's all have to have their video compressed to MPEG-2 in order to play in a DVD player.

Jerry

Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: http://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann

DVD:http://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup

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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 13, 2010 at 5:45:06 am

i think i've got it figured. My initial problem way back was that 3 quarters of the way into movie on the burned dvd, it would go out of sinc, video/audio. I was using a dual layer dvd. I now have movie below 2 hours. It seems the chapters were taking up 10 minutes worth making the total 130 minutes. I am now burning to a single layer dvd. I hope this solves the 'out of sinc' problem. I'm just guessing but is it possible that when the dual layer flips to the second layer, it would throw audio/video out? I don't know. I hope I'm on to something. I'll know by 6:30 this morning, central time.


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devon leesley
Re: size of project
on Oct 13, 2010 at 3:11:19 pm

Well, my burned dvd is still out of audio/video sinc in the same spot. Could there be something wrong with idvd? I'm still trying to figure SP out. Class again today. The nightmare continues.


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