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Miodrag Ristic
FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 3:10:29 am

I'm working on a project in DVCPRO HD 720p25 (PAL land) on my FCP 5.1.4
and wanted to add few lower thirds in my Motion 2.1.2,
but when I tried to create a project in Motion there was no
720p25 setting available (picture attached).

a href='http://f1.creativecow.net/1053/720p25-missing'>1053_720p25missing.png.zip
Am I missing something very simple here or...?

Can I maybe use that HDTV 720p preset?

Mio


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Rafael Amador
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 4:24:34 am

[Miodrag Ristic] "Can I maybe use that HDTV 720p preset?"
yes, or set Custom and modify it as you need.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Miodrag Ristic
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 4:29:43 am

Thanks Rafael,

Would that Custom setting be any different from HDTV 720p setting?
Or, how would I know if that HDTV is 720p25 or is it 720p50?

Mio


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Miodrag Ristic
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 4:45:33 am

After choosing HDTV 720p, the project opened and then I wanted to check
what are the "sequence setting" (like in FCP).
I went to preferences ad found that frame rate was still 29.97 so I copied the setting and changed it to
25 fps.
Further, there is "Square" setting chosen for Pixel Aspect Ratio - should I leave that as is?

Finally, in Summary it states: "Use the preset for high definition HDV or broadcast TV projects..."
I mean, working on a DVCPRO HD project, should I worry about this?

Thanks

Mio


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Rafael Amador
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 9:23:28 am

Hi Miodrag,
The Motion presets are confusing.
In fact I get the DVCProHD 720p, but I think you don't have it.
So lets forget about the presets.

You have two options:
- 1280 x 720 Square pixels
- 960 x 720 HD pixels.
The final result will be the same, but if you are finishing in DVCPro HD sequence, the second option is the more logical.
Cheers,
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Miodrag Ristic
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 11:08:07 am

You are right;

<- 960 x 720 HD pixels.>

... I checked my clips (and my sequence) in FCP,
and it's HD (960x720).

And what's the difference between shooting 720p25 and
720p50?

The reason I'm asking is that I did shoot 720p25 (due to nature of my output - YouTube),
and when I was just earlier checking the settings in FCP I realised that both clip settings and sequence settings are "Vid Rate" - 25 but for "Compressor" states DVCPRO HD 720p50??

It's really confusing...

Mio


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Rafael Amador
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 2, 2010 at 2:41:27 pm

Hi Miodrag,
p50 will make motion smoother while p25 will be more film like (p24), so more choppy.
Its makes sense to shoot p50 if you will play the film in an screen that allows that time base. Also p50 is the way to get a good slow motion: just need to conform it as p25.
If you end in standard PAL interlaced , p50 will offers you the 50 images per second that you need.
Mostly I use p25 because I end up in web videos or DVDs (progressive picture).
I only shoot p50 for the slow motion.
Cheers,
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Miodrag Ristic
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 3, 2010 at 12:46:12 am

Thanks Rafael.



What do you mean by "standard PAL interlaced" - TV?
If p25 is good for DVD, what's then left, only TV...


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Rafael Amador
Re: FCP to Motion trouble
on Sep 3, 2010 at 2:04:27 am

[Miodrag Ristic] "What do you mean by "standard PAL interlaced" - TV?
If p25 is good for DVD, what's then left, only TV..."

If you drop p25 footage in a PAL sequence, you get a i50 picture where both fields has been shot at the same time. You really are dealing with 25 images per second. Will look Progressive.
With p50 stuff you will get a i50 picture where both fields has been shot at different times. You deal with 50 images per second. The picture won't look Progressive.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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