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Johnny Smith
EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 1:49:12 am

I need this for tomorrow, my assistant is out of country, please help.

We shot a feature on 35mm, scanned the neg standard def, imported DVcams into fcp, cut the offline in standard def 24 fps. The assistant did something with cinema tools, and says that everything was brought it the right way.

Now we're rescanning the negative ( doing an HD telecine onto HDcamSR and dumping 10bit files onto an external hard drive ). I will be importing the files back into my decked out Mac Pro with a 3 terabyte array and conforming the feature in fcp.

The lab says the EDL I'm giving them does not contain film roll information. They said they need "lab rolls and takes from each lab roll". How do I get that? I do have flex files and ALE files.

-Johnny


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Johnny Smith
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 3:53:54 am

I guess the original post was too long.

All I'm asking is how come the EDL list I'm creating from fcp is not showing lab roll info??


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Shane Ross
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 5:13:45 am

I think the issue is that not many people here deal with actual film and Cinema Tools. But now that I've posted, people will think I gave you an answer...

Shane



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Michael Aranyshev
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 10:02:39 am

[Johnny Smith] "All I'm asking is how come the EDL list I'm creating from fcp is not showing lab roll info??"

Because FCP doesn't know which labroll a take comes from. When FCP generates an EDL it looks into the REEL field in its database. Chances are you have video tape number in that field, not a labroll number.


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Aaron Neitz
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 6:21:58 pm

EDL does not natively have Lab Roll. That's something you have to add as a "comment" in your EDL's (select a master clip, figure out what roll it came from, add it to one of the comments fields)

Typically a telecine house doesn't need the lab roll. If you shot less that 24 rolls, and your dailies were done right, then you should have 24 unique timecode hours in your media that relate to up to 24 rolls of film. All they need is a regular EDL with timecode!

But if you shot more than 24 rolls:

Lab roll could refer to a couple things depending: it could be the camera roll number (A1, A13, B4, C3, etc...). OR it could be the "lab" roll which is typically 3 camera rolls spliced onto a bigger roll of negative for 35mm.

Sounds like, especially since they are looking for the take, that there are a lot of rolls of film.



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Johnny Smith
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 9:46:29 pm

Thanks, Aaron and Michael.

Here are the first 004 of my EDL list.
It goes to 458.
Does it look good to you?
So what you're saying is I have to manually enter 458 comments??


TITLE: MWHDVD27 COPY
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
*FCM: DIGITAL TV 24P

001 AX AA C 00:00:00:20 00:00:06:20 01:54:08:09 01:54:14:09
* FROM CLIP NAME: MWHSSPOEM2.AIF
* COMMENT:
* PROBLEM WITH EDIT: CLIP HAD NO TIMECODE TRACK.

002 AX AA C 00:00:00:20 00:00:31:11 02:04:03:03 02:04:33:18
* FROM CLIP NAME: MWHSSPOEM2.AIF
* COMMENT:
* PROBLEM WITH EDIT: CLIP HAD NO TIMECODE TRACK.

003 AX AA C 00:00:01:02 00:00:02:19 01:03:38:13 01:03:40:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: VO8TRACKS3CHINTURN.AIF
* COMMENT:
* PROBLEM WITH EDIT: CLIP HAD NO TIMECODE TRACK.

004 AX AA C 00:00:01:09 00:00:02:13 01:50:43:21 01:50:45:01
* FROM CLIP NAME: VO8TRACKS3WHYLYING.AIF
* COMMENT:
* PROBLEM WITH EDIT: CLIP HAD NO TIMECODE TRACK.


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Johnny Smith
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 11:04:55 pm

Just realized the first four are titles from the offline and wouldn't have any timecode.
Here are 068 and 069.


068 VT007 V C 07:33:13:12 07:33:21:18 01:03:02:21 01:03:11:03
068 VT007 V K B 07:33:21:18 07:33:24:18 01:03:11:03 01:03:14:03
068 GEN V K 000 00:00:55:00 00:00:55:00 01:03:11:03 01:03:11:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: 14D-03.MOV
* COMMENT:
* KEY CLIP NAME: TEXT
* TO CLIP IS A GENERATOR

069 VT007 V C 07:33:24:18 07:33:32:17 01:03:14:03 01:03:22:02
069 VT007 V K B 07:33:32:17 07:33:35:03 01:03:22:02 01:03:24:12
069 GEN V K 000 00:00:55:00 00:00:55:00 01:03:22:02 01:03:22:02
* FROM CLIP NAME: 14D-03.MOV
* COMMENT:
* KEY CLIP NAME: TEXT
* TO CLIP IS A GENERATOR


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Johnny Smith
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 3, 2010 at 11:42:03 pm

Nevermind, Deluxe just walked me through it.
Moral of the story - just call your lab, they know.


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Aaron Neitz
Re: EDL list for HD telecine doesn't show film roll info
on Aug 4, 2010 at 4:48:59 pm

Correct on that. Sorry didn't get back to you in time.



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