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Antonis Tsoukatos
Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 2:37:34 pm

Hello all

Could anyone please brief me up of how HD ingest can take place with FCP?We want to ingest HD tapes, coming from a HD Deck in FCP. And what I am trying to confirm is this:

1.Is the audio from the HD Deck embedded through the SDI output?
2. If the audio is Dolby Encoded, will it be ingested as such?
3. If the answer to 2 is yes, how would I be able without the use of a DAW to decode the audio and perform minor edits?
4.And last - but not least :) - what would be the best way to re-encode for the final edited file?

Thanks!


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 2:53:02 pm

What deck?


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Antonis Tsoukatos
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 3:18:26 pm

Good question. Not in yet. Could you lay down for me what difference would this make?


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Steve Eisen
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 3:46:03 pm

If indeed your HD deck has SDI, your audio will be embedded.

You also need to have a capture card/IO device.

If you have HDV tapes, it's a totally different workflow.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Vice President
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 3:49:50 pm

There's too many to mention, but most likely it will be embedded audio. Do you have a capture card? I would hope that the deck will decode the dolby as FCP won't handle it too well.

Jeremy


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Antonis Tsoukatos
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 4:08:09 pm

I am sorry I did not clarify the technical backgound.

It is definitely going to be HD Deck with an SDI output. And a Kona card is going to be used for the ingesting. What I am trying to clear out is how the editing process of with all encoded/ decoded audio (refer to my initial posting if you can please)

Thanks for your help all


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 4:09:15 pm

And read my previous post about Dolby.


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Antonis Tsoukatos
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 5:00:42 pm

Thanks for all your help Jeremy...

So, you say that the deck might decode the audio for you. But that "might" can worth a lot of money, avoiding the purchase if kit that does decode it :)...

If it does not, what happens then? As I am writing this I am thinking that the only other solution could be to feed the audio out of the HD deck to a Dolby encoder and feed the audio out of the Dolby Decoder to the Kona card upon ingesting. Would that be the best workaround?




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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 5:02:31 pm

[Antonis Tsoukatos] "Would that be the best workaround? "

Definitely the cheapest. I'd do it from the deck to ensure a/v sync. if you think you will be working with DOlby a lot it's best to just buy it on the deck. you will use it all the time.


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gary adcock
Re: Ingesting from a HD deck. What about the audio?
on Jul 8, 2010 at 5:20:36 pm

[Antonis Tsoukatos] "2. If the audio is Dolby Encoded, will it be ingested as such? "

the Kona/ FCP workflow does not support Dolby encoded audio.

Dolby is a proprietary audio format and requires Dolby hardware to handle correctly.



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