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Marlon vom Bruch
Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 8:13:00 pm

Is there really no plugin or anything to get optical flares in final cut?


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Scott Sheriff
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 8:18:59 pm

Effects>video filters>quicktime>lens flare

Or in the button under the viewer where the bars/text/slug is located
Render>lens flare

Or use Motion.

Scott Sheriff
Director
SST Digital Media
http://www.sstdigitalmedia.com


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Marlon vom Bruch
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 9:28:41 pm

yeah but i dont mean lens flares. I mean optical flares.


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Thomas Morter-Laing
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 11:44:49 pm

Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't they the same thing? Perhaps you could point me in the direction of a video of one or an article or something demonstrating the differences?

:D
Tom Morter-Laing
Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
Production Assistant, Grace Productions
Degree; TV Production



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Scott Sheriff
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 11:55:48 pm

Thomas,
"Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't they the same thing? Perhaps you could point me in the direction of a video of one or an article or something demonstrating the differences?"


Yes, I think your right. To me there is much difference either.
Pretty much a lens flare minus the iris shape, or the big two point star you get when you overload a CCD, or some variation of that type of optical defect.
I remember when we went out of our way to avoid these things.

I think this is more about being addicted to trendy plugins, then seeing things for what they really are.

Scott Sheriff
Director
SST Digital Media
http://www.sstdigitalmedia.com


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Scott Sheriff
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 17, 2010 at 11:45:59 pm

"yeah but i dont mean lens flares. I mean optical flares."

No direct filter built in FCP labeled as such, but really, this is just a variation of lens flare, specular highlight, glow, glints. With a little compositing, multiple filters, tweaking what is already in FCP or Motion, or all of the above you can probably make what you want.
Pretty sure there are some 'Optical Flare' plugins for AE. But once you start using trendy plugins, then you end up with something that looks like everybody's stuff.




Scott Sheriff
Director
SST Digital Media
http://www.sstdigitalmedia.com


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gary adcock
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 12:07:41 am

"yeah but i dont mean lens flares. I mean optical flares."

What other kinds of flares are there? Optics = lensing.

Or are you referring to anamorphic flares ( star trek)
Or some more like chromatic aberrations (color fringing when point light sources bounce light between elements)

gary adcock
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gary adcock
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 12:07:42 am

"yeah but i dont mean lens flares. I mean optical flares."

What other kinds of flares are there? Optics = lensing.

Or are you referring to anamorphic flares ( star trek)
Or some more like chromatic aberrations (color fringing when point light sources bounce light between elements)

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Technology Development
Quality Assurance Assistance

Chicago, IL

http://blogs.creativecow.net/24640



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B.J. Ahlen
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 2:17:15 am

You mean like the optical phenomenon caused by internal reflections in a lens?

A simple bluish mask layer composite with your favorite flare shape should do it, just play with the composite modes and use the mask layer to wash out the original video a bit where the flare is supposed to occur.

Here's the section in the FCP7 manual on this.



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Marlon vom Bruch
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 9:05:06 am

I am looking for a flare like in 0:10 of this video







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adam taylor
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 9:14:26 am

thats an anamorphic lens flare.

Adam Taylor
Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
Character Options Ltd
Oldham, UK

http://www.sculptedbliss.co.uk


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Marlon vom Bruch
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 2:20:54 pm

how could I achieve this in final cut?


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gary adcock
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 2:38:38 pm

[Marlon vom Bruch] "how could I achieve this in final cut?"

http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/2009/02/anamorphic-lens-flares/

http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/knoll-light-factory-pro/

here are 2 ways, though the best effect would be to do this In Camera with real anamorphic lenses or using the Vantage Blue Filters infront of the camera - but both are expensive to rent.

gary adcock
Studio37

Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Technology Development
Quality Assurance Assistance

Chicago, IL

http://blogs.creativecow.net/24640



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Mahmoued Morsi
Re: Optical Flare
on Jun 18, 2010 at 11:20:40 pm

Hello, I think he wants to use the Optical Flares plug-in of Videocopilot inside FCP, sorry but This plug-in is not compilable with FCP, you will have to use After effects to generate the flare you need then import and export in FCP or if you want to use advanced flare generator inside FCP you will have to check Knoll light factory check the second link provided by gary adcock .


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Nineta Cristea
Re: Optical Flare
on Oct 28, 2011 at 1:13:16 am

Did u find out how to get extra optical flares in final cut pro? Like transfer the flares into final cut?


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Jonathan Howells
Re: Optical Flare
on Dec 8, 2012 at 12:59:19 pm

Hi guys,

No one seems to be aware that Borisfx makes a very, very good lens flare plug-in as a separate "unit" available independently of their larger packages for Motion/FCP.

http://www.borisfx.com/units/lens_flare.php

It is very good, with loads of options, including "stripe" which emulates that anamorphic (Star Trek) look. With some playing around, it gives very nice results... not as robust as VideoCopilot's Optical Flares, but is the very best option for Motion/FCP users.

Jonathan Howells



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