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rafael August
hd and mini dv pal in same project
on Jun 6, 2010 at 5:55:41 pm

Hi,

I'm editing a doc project that has half of the material shot in Pal 720x586 25fps and the other half shot hd 1280x720 29.97 fps. I would like to edit in hd to preserve the quality and use the pal footage but I am unsure how to unsqueeze the pal footage in the hd timeline. Any suggestions would help.

Thanks,

Rafael



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John Fishback
Re: hd and mini dv pal in same project
on Jun 6, 2010 at 7:59:12 pm

In the Motion Tab there is a Distort twirl down. Open that up and stretch the image to fit. If the SD footage is on tape you could recapture it with a Kona card (or similar) and uprez that way. You'll have better results. Also, you can do it in Compressor as its scaling is better than FCP's. Be sure to turn on Frame Controls and increase the resizing quality setting to Best. I'd try a short test first to see if using Compressor (it will take a while) is worth it. Also, you're going to have to adjust the timebase of the HD to 25fps. You can do that in Compressor, too. And, checkout Graeme Nattress' Standards Converter.

John

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rafael August
Re: hd and mini dv pal in same project
on Jun 7, 2010 at 5:32:32 pm

Thank you John for your help. I uprezed a test for the pal footage and it seems to be working. There was some interlacing showing but the de-interlace filter took that out.

What is the downside to not conforming all my hd footage to 25fps and changing the time base on the pal footage to 29.97? I'm trying to save some time so I don't have to re-compress everything.

Thanks again,

Rafael



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John Fishback
Re: hd and mini dv pal in same project
on Jun 7, 2010 at 7:03:51 pm

I don't know the answer, but try to change the PAL to 29.97. You may have to adjust the pitch of the audio down if the pitch change is noticeable.

John

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FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)

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