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Scott Hudson
Timing 24pn (23.98) for 29.97 for Broadcast
on Feb 27, 2010 at 5:21:10 pm

Hi All,

Major headache here...I have a half hour show shot and edited to time in 720 24pn DVCProHD using FCP 7. The show is for broadcast and will be converted and upscaled to 1080, 29.97 (59.94) drop frame at a post house, total show time of 21 minutes, it has 4 segments, with 30 second intervals for slates between each segment for a total runtime of 23:30;00.

Figuring out how to properly time this out before it goes out is a nightmare, hoping there's an easy fix I'm unaware of in FCP. I have to have segment timings for the slates down to the frame, and how to get from a properly timed 23.98 ndf to 29.97 df is a mystery.

As I understand it, going from 23.98 ndf to 29.97 df is going to add frames to the show at a rate of roughly 2 frames per minute, around 1.5 seconds to the total runtime. So basically, I have to accurately time the show in a 23.98 non drop frame timeline to 29.97 drop frame. So, 23.98 ndf timed to 21 minutes will actually run around 21:01;01 in 29.97 df, the show's going to be voer and my segment timing slates are going to be off which is obviously not gonna fly with the network.

I don't see any settings in FCP that would allow me to view the 23.98 timeline at the 29.97 drop frame timings that I'm going to need to accurately time out the show. This seems pretty basic (my Avid friends are laughing at me), if I'm missing something, please let me know!

I've seen some posts suggesting you export the 23.98 timeline to a quicktime, import into a 29.97 timeline, figure out how much you're over then go back to your original 23.98 and shave it. Seriously?? There has to be a more precise, hassle free way of figuring this out in the actual 23.98 timeline before anything is exported. Thanks in advance for your time!

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John Pale
Re: Timing 24pn (23.98) for 29.97 for Broadcast
on Feb 27, 2010 at 5:49:18 pm

Search posts for "23.98 calculator" and read posts by Shane Ross for your answer. I would give you a direct link but I am on my iPhone, and the mobile site has a different URL.

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Shane Ross
Re: Timing 24pn (23.98) for 29.97 for Broadcast
on Feb 27, 2010 at 5:54:37 pm

Same question posed on the Apple forum, but I'll post the link again here so there are multiple hits when people search.


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